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everyone I guess today is going to be

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Joe Palermo and will be covering a

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variety of subjects one in particular

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Chupacabra Bigfoot or Sasquatch and

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generally ETS and UFOs so there's a lot

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of information I hope you get a chance

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to listen to all of it Joe will be

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showing some very interesting footage he

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shot regarding the the Sasquatch and

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Bigfoot phenomena and I hope you get a

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chance to visit this website and and see

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that as well the links all will be

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posted in the description below

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and yeah let's get into it here's Joe

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hey Joe welcome to a webcast thanks for

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being on hey thank you very much France

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me I'm not it's it's a pleasure to see

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you again and I know we're gonna have a

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good one here because we always do good

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to see you as well well the format

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usually I'll go through all the

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questions and after we're done I'm

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pretty sure I'll ask some questions of

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my own and figures we'll just get going

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sure absolutely

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okay so the first question is from hazel

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Malaga Spain the the question is in your

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opinion do you think there's a way to

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get an ET to hear what we are saying to

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them second question is I always tell

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them that it is okay to visit do you

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the last one what is the best way to

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communicate with them many things so I

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figured I'll leave it up to you which

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order you wanted to take this well it

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sounds so like a good order as it is so

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that's fine

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hello hazel thank you for submitting a

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question and you broach a very very

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interesting subject many people on this

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planet have a very strong desire why I'm

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not entirely sure but very strong desire

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to communicate with other beings and the

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trick to that question is that you need

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to be very specific about who or what it

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is that you want to communicate with and

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what your intentions actually are

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because if you leave it open you leave

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yourself open to any intelligence coming

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through whether it's this alien

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extraterrestrial from the spirit realm

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what what level of consciousness that

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may be interested in communicating so

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you really need to be specific in what

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you're asking for and you always need to

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use protection you always need to guard

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yourself against lower level entities

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that may very much want to break through

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and communicate so that would be my my

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first response to your questions Tom as

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far as are they around and do they hear

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your question I would say yeah yeah

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now whether whether the consciousness

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that's their hearing you wants to

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communicate with you you know that's on

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there in it's it's like going into your

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favorite place public place for coffee

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or whatever and standing up and in the

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middle of the place and going hey does

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anybody want to talk maybe they do maybe

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so does that kind of covered the

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questions that were asked by hazel yep I

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trying to see feminism okay just be

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careful don't just invite anybody to

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talk so the second question is from

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Anthony from Rayong Thailand he asks

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what do you know of the other races of

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humans they seem to have coexisted with

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us before the last great Cataclysm

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affectionately known as the Coneheads

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because of their elongated skulls are

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they of earthly or alien origin where

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they are rulers were they the Giants of

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old well first thank you Anthony for

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submitting your question and what I will

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say is that I personally because of the

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way the question is formatted I

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personally can't say that I know for

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sure anything about these beings it

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sounds like maybe you've watched a lot

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of ancient aliens on television perhaps

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and let me say let me state this for the

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viewing audience and in for Anthony

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nobody knows for certain you know we're

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dealing with a ton of speculation on on

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artifacts and inferred knowledge about

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these things whether they were the last

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Cataclysm or three cataclysms ago we

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don't know I do know that from what I've

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heard from researchers like the late

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Colonel Wendell Stevens the

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extraterrestrials that are out there 90%

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of them look like us now the question is

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referring specifically to artifact

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or maybe remains or statues that are

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found of beings that have elongated

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heads whether they were gods or our

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did they rule over us apparently there

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are humans that held these beings in

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high esteem because they made statues to

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them or whatever so it's really

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difficult to answer your question with

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any certainty so that's the best answer

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I can give you okay the next question is

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from Agnes and she's from the

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Netherlands our sasquatch evolved humans

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without alien manipulation do you know

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any sites in the Netherlands Germany

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Poland region where there is a higher

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UFO eg activity well we're just gonna

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cover the whole gamut here with this

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question aren't we hello Agnes from the

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Netherlands appreciate your question and

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the first part of the regarding big book

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of the Sasquatch only from a friend of

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mine who I consider my my Sasquatch

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mentor can I begin to broach your

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question and that would be that

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Sasquatch as addressed to this specific

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type of creature that my mentor deals

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with Tom we did pose that question how

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are they do they are originated from

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Earth and the answer that came back was

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no they are not originating from the

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planet Earth now we didn't get any more

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information on that in other words we

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don't know we're out there they come

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from but they're not originally

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terrestrial now again that's from that

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particular clan of creature that my

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friend has dealt with

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could there be other creatures that

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resemble sasquatch that maybe are

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originated from earth possibly we're

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we're still in that in that research and

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investigation of which creatures are

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similar or not it's almost like we

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presume that all primates that are

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gorillas or orangutan or monkey some

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some subspecies but they all come from

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the planet Earth because we can't really

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communicate with them maybe they do

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maybe they don't

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we don't know yet we're still in that

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discovery process as far as the other

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countries you mentioned and in UFO word

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alien activity that's a tricky one too

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only because there were only just now

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sharing research with other countries in

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the past 10-15 years is a very slow

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process to know which seeming

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extraterrestrials are seen being seen

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more in specific countries and there

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there's the there's beginning to be a

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breakdown according to the reports that

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we're getting of what witness eyewitness

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testimony are telling us is that broken

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down enough for me to be able to

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actually answer your question with any

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precision I apologize for that but it is

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what it is with the communication that

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we have around the world and there's

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even speculation through some

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intelligence that some UFOs are living

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beings not just the you know D if you

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kick it does it clunk so it's very open

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yet I would be very just knowing what

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your research and investigation may I

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may tell us so if you would maybe you

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could communicate that with Agnon and

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UFO heaven and share some of your

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gyro North Hills California why are some

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critics more prevalent than others and

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there are so many here okay in trying to

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break down that question why are well I

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think probably there's no--there's

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critics and in ufology there are

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debunkers critics were open to now we

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need critical thinking in being able to

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understand what the what these things

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are that we're experiencing are if we

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can even break it down that far because

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we are dealing with seemingly advanced

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technology and certainly somewhat

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advanced beings and some some beings

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don't even aren't even involved in any

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kind of aircraft at all they're just

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consciousness that comes through so it

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becomes very tricky for us humans to

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analyze and understand and from a

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skeptical or critical standpoint you're

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applying the logic that those of us who

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can do critical thinking are we're

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trying to answer it from that aspect why

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are they allowed boys why are there more

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because I think these subjects in these

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areas of interest are gaining a wider

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audience I think those people that may

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have just said oh that's a bunch of

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nonsense you know 25 30 years ago it's

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an arm is still in our lives

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and these things are even greater in our

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lives

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they are penetrating into more and more

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people's lives people who never gave a

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thought to UFOs or aliens it's it's

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there they can't ignore it anymore so

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they're they're lending their voice to

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it they're going well because I think it

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scares them personally I think it scares

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the logical mind because it doesn't read

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fit into people's lives even though it

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is in people's lives and even people who

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are open to the idea it's disconcerting

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they don't know where to put it I have

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some very dear friends that I've met

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through this sort of thing and they will

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often call me asking me questions very

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similar to what you're asking because

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they haven't yet fitted into their lives

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and it it is disruptive to human lives

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and that's why I amended this whole

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thing trying to understand what's going

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on so I can help my friends even even in

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my own I'm good with things that I've

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experienced and what I've seen I have no

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problem fitting them into my life

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because they were there I can't I cannot

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do to myself with some other people can

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do I can't say that didn't really happen

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that didn't exist bla bla bla I can't

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because I know my mind well enough it's

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like and and let me add this to this is

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I think important where I experience

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something that seems out of the norm

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whether it's a UFO or

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the aliens are pretty good at covering

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their tracks and you don't really think

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a lot about that when I have whatever

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kind of encounter it is whether it's

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spirit UFO sighting Bigfoot whatever my

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mind is also still taking in everything

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else and that has always been my

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checkpoints like okay everything else I

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centered this one item that I'm seeing

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is falls into the category of normal you

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know even if my my bed were to start

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levitating it's like okay my computer's

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still here my table is still here

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my shelf of everything else is normal

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this is the only thing that is seemingly

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abnormal so that allows me and my mind

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to say okay this is real because

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everything else

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around me Israel this is the only oddity

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so let me take in as much of this oddity

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as I can with with all of my senses so

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that later I can take an objective and I

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know people have an issue with this well

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you you experienced it has got to be

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subjective I seemingly have a gift

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because I don't have an agenda with it I

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want to look at it if I can explain it

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then I explain it it's a done deal if I

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can't explain it then it's not a done

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deal and I put that into a category

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psychology was to say that you can't be

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objective if you're involved I disagree

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with that and while we're on that

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concept let me say that there are I am

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in a position in my life I've been doing

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this all my life I am in a position of

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challenging current thought I've had ten

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years study of metaphysics and

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parapsychology and I I challenge a lot

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of what's considered guidelines and all

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of this stuff I would I would I don't

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care if it's a named person or somebody

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brand new on the scene if I disagree

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with their concept I'm going to

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challenge it and I'm going to give an

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explanation as to why I'm challenging

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and that's what we all need to do if it

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doesn't make sense to you challenge it

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but be prepared to back up why you're

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challenging it don't do it arbitrarily

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don't do it just to be well I'm gonna

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take the opposite side of the table you

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my challenge to all the quote debunkers

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out there okay if you want to just as a

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quick example of stupid debunking I

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think it was in the early eighties there

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was a Japanese Japanese airliner that

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flew across the continental US at the

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border of Canada on the plane itself

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there was visual witness to this UFO

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outside the plane following the plane

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onboard radar picked it up and a Royal

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Canadian Air Force radar picked it up

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they picked up an object shaped like a

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walnut and the size get this the size of

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seven aircraft carriers now most people

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in know anything about aircraft carriers

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say they are such a sizer or simply and

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of themselves this thing was seven times

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that and the late Philip class one of

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the main debunkers in ufology went on I

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think it was on 20/20 television show

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and said that well it's obvious that

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what they were seeing was the planet

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Jupiter now I don't want you guys but

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really we've got ground radar an

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airplane radar that picks up the planet

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Jupiter now that's that's well worthy of

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a challenge I challenged anybody out

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there to show me a radar system ground

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radar system designed and that will pick

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up any planet in the solar system so you

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gotta be will you got to listen very

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carefully

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and you've got to pick it apart and you

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got to be ready to challenge what's

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being said okay thanks for that Joe I

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wanted to ask what what would be best to

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go into because you covered a variety of

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different subjects for example

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Chupacabra Bigfoot as well and alienists

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we've just heard and so do you mind if

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we go into a segment to talking a little

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bit about Chupacabra and because I know

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you were on a crew back in the 90s going

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down to South America to do some filming

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especially during that time when this

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was said at its height if I'm not

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mistaken so I wanted to get a little bit

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into that and maybe some of the others

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other subjects that that does that sound

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okay with you that sounds terrific that

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sounds terrific and I'm glad that we're

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doing this about the chupacabra because

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there's so much misinformation out there

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it was February 1996 when we went to

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Puerto Rico not South America so many

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people think that it was South America I

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know yeah it was pretty Rico that was

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the height of the Chupacabra activity

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and actually the Chupacabra activity had

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been going on in Puerto Rico for a year

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before we went and this is partly how

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information came out and I we had what

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really got me intrigued was the fact

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that TV show Inside Edition did a small

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piece on the chupacabra Wall Street

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Journal about a paragraph in The Wall

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Street Journal this was written up about

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the chupacabra

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and according to dr. Carlos Soto a

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veterinarian who did me cropsey's on the

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animal victims of this creature I think

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he called it perfectly he said it's an

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unknown predatory creature sums it up

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you know in Puerto Rico there's there

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there's a lot of agriculture there's a

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lot of you know agricultural animals and

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domestic animals both for being here and

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you know when you wake up and you've got

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your prize $2,500 or $5,000 or whatever

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prize bull dead in the field assuming

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that these puncture wounds that were on

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it was did it he just lost a big amount

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of money and this is part of the reason

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that the government of Puerto Rico

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got involved in the article in The New

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York Times was in their Wall Street

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Journal because it was becoming an

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economic hardship on the people so this

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came this information came to me through

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a MUFON meeting for those of you who are

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not familiar with me upon its things for

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the mutual UFO network the longest

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civilian effort to research and

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investigate from a scientific standpoint

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the this UFO phenomena and we were in

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Collinsville Illinois and here in the

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United States and a late friend of mine

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Bob buck brought the faxed illustration

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of this creature and as he passed it

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around there was a lot of going on and I

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got a hold of it and to me given that I

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have a moviemaking background to me I

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immediately thought this looks like it's

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from a cheap bad b-movie you know it's

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like this thing shouldn't exist and

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eyewitness testimony says that it has

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scales hair and feathers biologically

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that should not happen you know it's

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like this this creature should not be

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able to exist it also has some sort of

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quill like appendages from the crown of

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its head

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all the way down it's fact and these

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things are rather like and when the

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chupacabra has been seen to get

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seemingly get excited please stand up

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off its back

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stand up horizontally and flutter

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horizontally in a rainbow of colors has

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three fingers with claws as Madeline

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Tolentino talks about and three toes on

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each foot with claws and I would I I was

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asked to be the official videographer on

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this trip and in February 96 and I went

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we did a number of interviews with

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police officers eyewitnesses and in fact

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maybe maybe at the bottom here or

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somewhere where you guys are watching

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this we can put a link to my webpage for

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viewing of the documentary that I did

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too yeah we'll have that my documentary

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pieces of my documentary and I've been

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on camera for Monster quest

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something called para natural and the

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National Geographic Channel and monsters

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and mysteries in America on destination

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America channel and they all three got

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it raw I don't know how or why but the

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the crux of the matter is it's not what

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television has led viewers to believe

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it's not a canine looking dog looking

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creature

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it's not what this is this is a very

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dinosaurus creature that it doesn't eat

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the animals

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I'll give you one item out because I

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want you guys to watch the documentary

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to get all of it when this creature okay

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one of the things that intrigued me with

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dr. solos commentary was that within the

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puncture wounds he found no sign of any

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saliva and I'm because it because from

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the get-go everybody was saying that

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this thing was like a vampire and I

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drained the blood and blah blah blah

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it didn't drain the blood

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he said that there was either the normal

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amount or a little bit less than the

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normal amount but the animals were not

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drained of blood so it's like okay what

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in the world

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why is there no saliva and it finally

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occurred to me claws on fingers cause

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the thing was grabbing the animals and

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puncturing that's where the puncture

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wounds came from was from the claws now

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this being has some sort of a very much

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like an ant eater a tongue that you know

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comes out mean long gates and all that

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but its tongue into one of these

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puncture wounds and then the tongue

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would be searching through the body now

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this is a strange well how this thing

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goes the anatomy of all the animals that

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it deals with is questionable

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I mean how that's like your dog knowing

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where your liver is and going after your

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liver the dog doesn't have any idea of

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your Anatomy now one of your other

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interviews cat Hughes might disagree

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with me on that part you know maybe she

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could talk to some and I want to find

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out what they do know anything about

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Anatomy so y'all are there watching this

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go check out cat Hughes interview to the

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animal communicator so yeah the inner

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organs they're wood from one puncture

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wound he would peel back epidermis

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letters and he might find four other

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holes with no outer means of outer you

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know trauma and he followed that one

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hole and might lead down to the heart

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and the heart would have two or three

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strips of tissue removed follow it maybe

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to a kidney same thing maybe to his

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stomach same thing and it's like how

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this is even possible so no this is a

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very very strange creature and in the

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last I'll say six months I've heard from

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a new friend in Puerto Rico who says the

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activity started up again now remember

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when I was there it was 1996 so we're

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talking with uh

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six 16 18 22 years ago

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and now it seems to be starting up again

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so I'm hoping to get a production

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company interested and going back down

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there and doing an update on the

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chupacabra that would be very

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interesting and I would love for anybody

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watching this to submit questions about

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so do you have any more questions on

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this I do were there any speculations at

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that time and maybe since then we're

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what this or at least where this thing

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is from you know is it's just another

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subspecies of some sort of animal or or

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you you know you ask an ideal question

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and it's the same question that's been

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asked about the Bigfoot creature about

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similarity with these two the answer to

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we have no idea it shows up does its

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thing

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nobody well is speculated there was a

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homicide detective on the last day that

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we were in Puerto Rico we were in

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Merrick the mayor canal Vanessa's office

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right right now his name escapes me but

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this story that we heard was that this

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guy was getting ready to go to work in

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the morning he had a pet Doberman

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Pinscher that was in the garage and he

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heard it howling he went out there and

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there is this quote bat-like creature

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over earth trying to grab it

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absolutement pincher detective Rivera I

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think was this thing he goes back in the

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house gets his service revolver who's

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back out to the garage and point-blank

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shoots this thing several times blood

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splatters up on the wall of the garage

544
00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:02,110
it rolls backwards tumbles backwards

545
00:30:09,730 --> 00:30:06,799
takes a bound bound up over the fence

546
00:30:13,180 --> 00:30:09,740
onto a I believe that was a palm tree

547
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:13,190
and then disappeared this thing was shot

548
00:30:20,830 --> 00:30:16,450
point-blank for the service revolver and

549
00:30:22,330 --> 00:30:20,840
kept going this homicide detective that

550
00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:22,340
knows about crime scenes and the

551
00:30:28,389 --> 00:30:24,799
preservation of a crime scene was so

552
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:28,399
unnerved he got the hose he washed all

553
00:30:34,419 --> 00:30:31,850
the blood off of the garage wall then he

554
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:34,429
got some primer paint out and painted

555
00:30:40,899 --> 00:30:39,110
over how are you a homicide detective

556
00:30:45,730 --> 00:30:40,909
knowing how to preserve a crime scene

557
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:45,740
and you do that it must have completely

558
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:50,720
freaked him out so

559
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:52,370
well I mean based on the description it

560
00:30:58,299 --> 00:30:55,370
didn't look human so it's not like you

561
00:31:01,870 --> 00:30:58,309
could have mistaken it for or maybe I

562
00:31:06,310 --> 00:31:01,880
just killed somebody you know out of you

563
00:31:07,380 --> 00:31:06,320
know as this reaction react you know so

564
00:31:13,779 --> 00:31:07,390
yeah that's confusing

565
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:13,789
yeah yeah but that's if we could talk to

566
00:31:20,169 --> 00:31:16,250
the light but Hopkins who's considered a

567
00:31:25,180 --> 00:31:20,179
a major pioneer in alien human abduction

568
00:31:29,610 --> 00:31:25,190
research he would tell you that all of

569
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:29,620
these things were talking about they

570
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:32,720
they have no prejudice they they're

571
00:31:38,169 --> 00:31:35,570
equal opportunity whether you're on

572
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:38,179
unemployment or you are Bill Gates and

573
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:41,090
make a bazillion dollars a year does it

574
00:31:44,169 --> 00:31:42,890
matter to it if it's going to appear

575
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:44,179
into your life that's going to appear

576
00:31:53,350 --> 00:31:50,570
into your life so yeah we don't know now

577
00:31:55,299 --> 00:31:53,360
going back to those similarity and I

578
00:31:57,789 --> 00:31:55,309
found this out from my sasquatch mentor

579
00:32:00,580 --> 00:31:57,799
okay one of the first things that I

580
00:32:03,310 --> 00:32:00,590
found out about the chupacabra it

581
00:32:08,740 --> 00:32:03,320
projects light from its eyes like a

582
00:32:10,450 --> 00:32:08,750
flashlight that was starting in

583
00:32:13,180 --> 00:32:10,460
last I'm gonna say five years I'm

584
00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:13,190
talking with my Bigfoot mentor what

585
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:17,030
question you know the question is about

586
00:32:21,630 --> 00:32:19,610
the ice particularly is it more so you

587
00:32:24,970 --> 00:32:21,640
said like a flashlight or is there more

588
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:24,980
strength to that beam to words more

589
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:28,010
projecting more like now I wouldn't say

590
00:32:33,690 --> 00:32:30,650
laser-like but more of a projected beam

591
00:32:37,570 --> 00:32:33,700
are you saying they're just glowing red

592
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:37,580
no they're not going well there's I mean

593
00:32:45,250 --> 00:32:41,450
you can see the eyes themselves are red

594
00:32:48,940 --> 00:32:45,260
but there's one witness described it

595
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:48,950
like a flashlight of red but in the

596
00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:51,530
center like maybe where you're you

597
00:32:57,379 --> 00:32:54,710
people would be a strong yellow light

598
00:33:00,899 --> 00:32:57,389
like a laser

599
00:33:03,389 --> 00:33:00,909
there's speculation that there's

600
00:33:05,849 --> 00:33:03,399
something about this light something

601
00:33:09,539 --> 00:33:05,859
about the eyes that sort of hypnotizes

602
00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:09,549
the animal because the animals just go

603
00:33:19,099 --> 00:33:12,849
neutral and this and this creature does

604
00:33:21,899 --> 00:33:19,109
what it does now it it has had to chase

605
00:33:24,810 --> 00:33:21,909
Bulls we know that least one case in

606
00:33:28,889 --> 00:33:24,820
where a bull was chased in the corral it

607
00:33:33,869 --> 00:33:28,899
was in and chased down and killed by the

608
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:33,879
at least one Chupacabra and along the

609
00:33:39,719 --> 00:33:36,330
wall I'm thinking about chupacabra

610
00:33:42,289 --> 00:33:39,729
Spanish translated means goat sucker

611
00:33:44,669 --> 00:33:42,299
because goats were the first animals

612
00:33:48,810 --> 00:33:44,679
found that were victims of this thing

613
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:48,820
but it goes after anything now I do not

614
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:52,809
accept people to say yeah man the

615
00:33:58,799 --> 00:33:55,330
chupacabra attacked me I don't buy it

616
00:34:01,080 --> 00:33:58,809
I fear if if you're if you had the

617
00:34:03,359 --> 00:34:01,090
ability to chase down 2500 pound bull

618
00:34:05,820 --> 00:34:03,369
and kill it a human being is not going

619
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:05,830
to be challenged a human being is not

620
00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:09,010
going to escape you and I haven't heard

621
00:34:13,260 --> 00:34:10,960
with madeline Tolentino one of the

622
00:34:17,549 --> 00:34:13,270
people that we interviewed in my

623
00:34:21,659 --> 00:34:17,559
documentary when she encountered the

624
00:34:26,010 --> 00:34:21,669
chupacabra face to face sort of it was

625
00:34:28,349 --> 00:34:26,020
like four feet from her it made no move

626
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:28,359
whatsoever torture now regarding the

627
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:30,609
eyes again during the day the

628
00:34:38,069 --> 00:34:33,970
chupacabras eyes are jet-black

629
00:34:42,899 --> 00:34:38,079
pull need at night does it through this

630
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:42,909
projecting of light as will the

631
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:45,970
sasquatch creature the Sasquatch

632
00:34:53,279 --> 00:34:51,010
creature can make its eyes different

633
00:34:56,789 --> 00:34:53,289
colors at the same time or all the same

634
00:35:02,560 --> 00:34:56,799
color like all blue or all green or all

635
00:35:06,290 --> 00:35:02,570
yellow but it will also

636
00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:09,680
I find that very interesting so before

637
00:35:15,740 --> 00:35:12,240
we go into sasquatch I just want to ask

638
00:35:19,100 --> 00:35:15,750
one more question and kind of finish up

639
00:35:23,090 --> 00:35:19,110
with the Chupacabra segment so sure any

640
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:23,100
particular forgive me if I've somehow

641
00:35:28,490 --> 00:35:25,200
totally missed this was where they was

642
00:35:32,359 --> 00:35:28,500
in a description about its its skin and

643
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:32,369
and the way this is a kind of adapted to

644
00:35:35,690 --> 00:35:34,050
its to the environment to where it's

645
00:35:40,370 --> 00:35:35,700
difficult to see who does it stand out

646
00:35:42,620 --> 00:35:40,380
if you were to see it well that's hard

647
00:35:47,350 --> 00:35:42,630
to say because there's only been a few

648
00:35:49,930 --> 00:35:47,360
actual quote man hunts going after it

649
00:36:02,880 --> 00:35:49,940
the

650
00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:02,890
stings has been compared to a pig farm

651
00:36:09,099 --> 00:36:05,510
rotten eggs

652
00:36:11,140 --> 00:36:09,109
a very strong stench which interestingly

653
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:11,150
it up and this hits what I was about to

654
00:36:18,940 --> 00:36:15,650
say anyway Sasquatch is said to render

655
00:36:20,730 --> 00:36:18,950
the same kind of odor now in any of the

656
00:36:23,859 --> 00:36:20,740
research I've ever done and either

657
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:23,869
online on-site investigation and actual

658
00:36:31,390 --> 00:36:25,730
encounters with these things I've never

659
00:36:34,089 --> 00:36:31,400
experienced any odor but that was simply

660
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:34,099
my experience that you know I can't

661
00:36:39,609 --> 00:36:35,690
negate the experience of other people at

662
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:39,619
reporters but I doubt seriously that the

663
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:42,170
history of people that had reported

664
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:44,690
Sasquatch encounters and the history of

665
00:36:49,569 --> 00:36:47,569
people that have reported chupacabra

666
00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:49,579
encounters have any knowledge of each

667
00:36:54,970 --> 00:36:53,359
other so it's not like well you know I

668
00:36:56,529 --> 00:36:54,980
heard the Bigfoot does the you know

669
00:37:01,960 --> 00:36:56,539
smells bad so I'm just gonna say the

670
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:01,970
chupacabra smells bad no I did I don't

671
00:37:08,589 --> 00:37:05,410
see any way possible if that's going on

672
00:37:12,779 --> 00:37:08,599
but the beams of light coming out of

673
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:17,279
they both I would venture to speculate

674
00:37:27,609 --> 00:37:21,609
have an interdimensional quality to them

675
00:37:32,620 --> 00:37:27,619
we know that the Sasquatch can cloak and

676
00:37:34,660 --> 00:37:32,630
the interdimensional we know that the

677
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:34,670
chupacabra it's speculated a because

678
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:36,410
nobody no one can track this thing down

679
00:37:40,029 --> 00:37:38,720
very much like the Sasquatch they

680
00:37:41,380 --> 00:37:40,039
compared their quality it could be

681
00:37:44,589 --> 00:37:41,390
standing right next to you and you not

682
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:44,599
know it because it's closer or gone you

683
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:46,490
know to a different frequency different

684
00:37:53,950 --> 00:37:51,410
vibration so next question sir so I

685
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:53,960
guess so let's get into Sasquatch or or

686
00:37:58,740 --> 00:37:56,930
do you prefer Bigfoot do you is there a

687
00:38:00,990 --> 00:37:58,750
consensus there

688
00:38:04,339 --> 00:38:01,000
it depends on what language you're

689
00:38:08,250 --> 00:38:04,349
talking in sasquatches are actually from

690
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:08,260
given Indian tribes Bigfoot is what just

691
00:38:15,390 --> 00:38:11,170
general Americans call it or when the

692
00:38:18,329 --> 00:38:15,400
Himalayas is the Yeti down in Florida is

693
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:18,339
the skunk ape so if I'm using those

694
00:38:20,849 --> 00:38:20,410
terms interchangeably you're not gonna

695
00:38:25,309 --> 00:38:20,859
mind

696
00:38:29,450 --> 00:38:25,319
no okay all right how did you get into

697
00:38:32,190 --> 00:38:29,460
Bo into I guess studying Bigfoot and

698
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:32,200
based on all the the research that you

699
00:38:36,750 --> 00:38:35,050
were able to find because I don't know

700
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:36,760
if you want to discuss some of the

701
00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:38,530
information and thinks that you've shown

702
00:38:42,030 --> 00:38:40,240
me in the past which are pretty amazing

703
00:38:45,210 --> 00:38:42,040
so I don't know if if you've gone public

704
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:45,220
with that yet but can you just start out

705
00:38:50,130 --> 00:38:47,410
how you got into into this what what

706
00:38:52,770 --> 00:38:50,140
brought you to start studying Bigfoot

707
00:38:57,660 --> 00:38:52,780
and then generally what you found about

708
00:39:02,040 --> 00:38:57,670
that okay well essentially what got me

709
00:39:04,650 --> 00:39:02,050
into studying Bigfoot given that my life

710
00:39:07,380 --> 00:39:04,660
had already been full of paranormal but

711
00:39:11,329 --> 00:39:07,390
when I started finding out about the

712
00:39:15,660 --> 00:39:11,339
concept of Bigfoot it intrigued me and

713
00:39:18,349 --> 00:39:15,670
there was a a movie in the early 70s

714
00:39:22,130 --> 00:39:18,359
called creature from Black Lake and

715
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:22,140
there was that one and there was a The

716
00:39:26,609 --> 00:39:24,490
Legend of Boggy Creek there was a -

717
00:39:28,829 --> 00:39:26,619
those are the two movies that really got

718
00:39:33,930 --> 00:39:28,839
me interested in Bigfoot and then

719
00:39:35,940 --> 00:39:33,940
September 14th and 15th of 1976 in st.

720
00:39:41,550 --> 00:39:35,950
Louis County Missouri in creve coeur

721
00:39:43,290 --> 00:39:41,560
Park I had and I hesitate to call it in

722
00:39:46,650 --> 00:39:43,300
an encounter but I don't know what else

723
00:39:52,740 --> 00:39:46,660
to call it with what was likely a

724
00:39:56,700 --> 00:39:52,750
Bigfoot and given that the park was

725
00:39:59,839 --> 00:39:56,710
nearby and given that I actually could

726
00:40:03,770 --> 00:39:59,849
say hey there's something there that

727
00:40:06,059 --> 00:40:03,780
started me off on a 5-year venture of

728
00:40:09,230 --> 00:40:06,069
investigating the park trying to find

729
00:40:12,370 --> 00:40:09,240
any signs of the Bigfoot creature and

730
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:12,380
that led into

731
00:40:19,930 --> 00:40:16,130
blood samples being found being analyzed

732
00:40:21,660 --> 00:40:19,940
by a local vet that actually the blood

733
00:40:26,430 --> 00:40:21,670
samples we found were a mixture of

734
00:40:30,339 --> 00:40:26,440
canine and an unknown and when the back

735
00:40:34,029 --> 00:40:30,349
discovered that this one was unknown he

736
00:40:36,069 --> 00:40:34,039
essentially said I don't want any more

737
00:40:38,170 --> 00:40:36,079
to do with this and if you tell anybody

738
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:38,180
that I looked at this or analyzed it I

739
00:40:44,650 --> 00:40:41,170
will kill you with my own hands

740
00:40:50,109 --> 00:40:44,660
that's a threat that's yeah that's you

741
00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:50,119
know and along the way it's led to I

742
00:40:55,930 --> 00:40:52,609
went to Lindenwood colleges in the late

743
00:40:57,969 --> 00:40:55,940
70s and I think Neil friend of mine and

744
00:41:01,059 --> 00:40:57,979
I guess what I'm helping I'll do my

745
00:41:03,609 --> 00:41:01,069
research he indicated that in a law

746
00:41:06,299 --> 00:41:03,619
library at Washington University she

747
00:41:09,450 --> 00:41:06,309
came across a book talking about an

748
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:09,460
experiment that the government had done

749
00:41:16,509 --> 00:41:12,729
and trying to create super soldiers

750
00:41:18,759 --> 00:41:16,519
essentially and the result of those

751
00:41:20,739 --> 00:41:18,769
experiments which interesting leaned up

752
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:20,749
on finding some support for what she

753
00:41:27,459 --> 00:41:24,410
told me back then some of these beings

754
00:41:30,489 --> 00:41:27,469
escaped and that these are alleged to be

755
00:41:32,829 --> 00:41:30,499
the Bigfoot now that gets into what we

756
00:41:35,170 --> 00:41:32,839
were talking about earlier in regarding

757
00:41:38,069 --> 00:41:35,180
Bigfoot you may come across a creature

758
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:38,079
that physically fits a given description

759
00:41:45,900 --> 00:41:42,079
it might be a sasquatch it might not be

760
00:41:49,089 --> 00:41:45,910
a sasquatch maybe it is an actual alien

761
00:41:52,209 --> 00:41:49,099
where we as human beings are quick to

762
00:41:53,979 --> 00:41:52,219
try to identify something nice why so

763
00:41:55,569 --> 00:41:53,989
mind-boggling to us when we come across

764
00:41:58,420 --> 00:41:55,579
something that were we've never been

765
00:42:00,009 --> 00:41:58,430
told about or encountered and we're

766
00:42:04,959 --> 00:42:00,019
trying to figure out how does this fit

767
00:42:09,519 --> 00:42:04,969
in my life but yeah within my five years

768
00:42:11,380 --> 00:42:09,529
of Bigfoot research for Kruger Park we

769
00:42:14,829 --> 00:42:11,390
wound up sending set the rest of

770
00:42:17,650 --> 00:42:14,839
remaining blood samples to a friend of a

771
00:42:22,329 --> 00:42:17,660
friend at an animal research center in

772
00:42:23,650 --> 00:42:22,339
Arizona and he got all excited they got

773
00:42:25,870 --> 00:42:23,660
all excited because they couldn't

774
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:25,880
identify it we were told

775
00:42:30,670 --> 00:42:28,130
that they were going to send the samples

776
00:42:36,190 --> 00:42:30,680
off the rest of them off to Washington

777
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:36,200
DC for a worldwide examining but that

778
00:42:42,070 --> 00:42:40,130
was worldwide database I guess in fact a

779
00:42:45,010 --> 00:42:42,080
bad time we're talking about computers

780
00:42:47,470 --> 00:42:45,020
that ran on the old cards the program

781
00:42:50,730 --> 00:42:47,480
was done by punctures and the cards that

782
00:42:58,650 --> 00:42:50,740
go through so it was it was still slow

783
00:43:01,540 --> 00:42:58,660
but last we knew was this guy was fired

784
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:01,550
from the institution he worked for for

785
00:43:08,050 --> 00:43:04,370
or using the equipment without proper

786
00:43:10,990 --> 00:43:08,060
authorization and initially the the

787
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:11,000
people here were all excited and wanted

788
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:13,610
to arrange funding for them to come and

789
00:43:19,810 --> 00:43:17,090
do field research and then about two

790
00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:19,820
weeks later we were told he was fired no

791
00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:22,310
reason you know given well the use of

792
00:43:27,820 --> 00:43:25,760
using the equipment so this guy made

793
00:43:29,410 --> 00:43:27,830
copies of all the paperwork that had

794
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:29,420
been done so far was on his way up here

795
00:43:36,340 --> 00:43:32,210
to st. Louis stop by his mom's house in

796
00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:36,350
Texas never arrived

797
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:42,160
and this is my first lesson in media and

798
00:43:49,150 --> 00:43:47,050
paranormal if you will I told my

799
00:43:52,980 --> 00:43:49,160
interestingly enough my car insurance

800
00:43:57,390 --> 00:43:52,990
guy about what happened and he knew a

801
00:43:59,800 --> 00:43:57,400
reporter channel 4 so he contacted them

802
00:44:03,040 --> 00:43:59,810
arranged a meeting I learnt and talked

803
00:44:07,420 --> 00:44:03,050
with a taxpayer's reporter Steve shift

804
00:44:12,220 --> 00:44:07,430
and just local sinless local st. Louis

805
00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:12,230
CBS affiliate yeah and they were very

806
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:14,720
fascinated by the story but I didn't

807
00:44:21,850 --> 00:44:19,010
have any visual evidence to support what

808
00:44:25,300 --> 00:44:21,860
I've been through so they couldn't do a

809
00:44:27,850 --> 00:44:25,310
story on it the guy the guy at that time

810
00:44:30,220 --> 00:44:27,860
I was working with how to contacted

811
00:44:34,780 --> 00:44:30,230
channel 2 KTVI here in st. Louis local

812
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:34,790
ABC affiliate at that point and got a

813
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:37,130
special assignment reporter Molly

814
00:44:41,830 --> 00:44:40,160
McKittrick to come out and try to do the

815
00:44:45,070 --> 00:44:41,840
story the story never aired although she

816
00:44:48,970 --> 00:44:45,080
did come out to cream core part and do

817
00:44:51,790 --> 00:44:48,980
some recording with with me hey why is

818
00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:51,800
such a I guess all these new people

819
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:55,250
losing their jobs and and told not to

820
00:44:59,020 --> 00:44:57,050
talk about I mean what what were that

821
00:45:01,930 --> 00:44:59,030
what was this potential threat here I

822
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:01,940
mean I'm pretty sure there's still some

823
00:45:07,930 --> 00:45:04,010
things on the planet that we just

824
00:45:10,210 --> 00:45:07,940
haven't really forget I don't know about

825
00:45:13,300 --> 00:45:10,220
discover but haven't really identified

826
00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:13,310
fully so other than just having an

827
00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:15,680
extensive library of unidentified things

828
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:19,730
why such a brouhaha over this well I

829
00:45:24,310 --> 00:45:22,610
think your your concept things we have

830
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:24,320
discovered is very true we're

831
00:45:30,910 --> 00:45:26,570
discovering all kinds of new life in the

832
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:30,920
oceans everyday you know and we haven't

833
00:45:35,620 --> 00:45:32,810
come near to exploring all of the

834
00:45:39,070 --> 00:45:35,630
landmass on this planet or the caves

835
00:45:39,790 --> 00:45:39,080
that we have cave systems that's a whole

836
00:45:44,490 --> 00:45:39,800
other story

837
00:45:50,339 --> 00:45:47,220
I think what we need to consider is

838
00:45:54,170 --> 00:45:50,349
things that involve the paranoia whether

839
00:45:56,849 --> 00:45:54,180
it's Bigfoot chupacabra or whatever

840
00:45:59,130 --> 00:45:56,859
there are certain segments of world

841
00:46:03,150 --> 00:45:59,140
governments that have been investigating

842
00:46:07,980 --> 00:46:03,160
this stuff as well and I think if we get

843
00:46:12,540 --> 00:46:07,990
too close to getting X amount of

844
00:46:16,490 --> 00:46:12,550
information then we're also on the

845
00:46:20,730 --> 00:46:16,500
precipice of getting involved in other

846
00:46:25,230 --> 00:46:20,740
national security information that they

847
00:46:27,150 --> 00:46:25,240
absolutely do not want out Stanton

848
00:46:30,359 --> 00:46:27,160
Friedman nuclear physicist Stanton

849
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:30,369
Friedman who's been a quote professional

850
00:46:34,770 --> 00:46:32,770
ufologist for as long as I've been bored

851
00:46:40,710 --> 00:46:34,780
he started 1958 that was the year I was

852
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:40,720
born in 1985 at the me funds symposium

853
00:46:46,319 --> 00:46:44,410
held here and say Lewis he said that one

854
00:46:47,790 --> 00:46:46,329
of the reasons people ask this all the

855
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:47,800
time what why doesn't the government

856
00:46:53,339 --> 00:46:50,650
want us to know about this he speculated

857
00:46:57,410 --> 00:46:53,349
that after the discovery of the Foo

858
00:47:02,579 --> 00:46:57,420
Fighters I think that was world war two

859
00:47:07,170 --> 00:47:02,589
that the varying countries came together

860
00:47:09,059 --> 00:47:07,180
and you know America asked the Soviets

861
00:47:11,670 --> 00:47:09,069
what in the world was that you had up

862
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:11,680
there and they're here and they're

863
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:13,930
asking us what it was we had up here so

864
00:47:17,819 --> 00:47:15,609
all the countries going little the

865
00:47:20,190 --> 00:47:17,829
locals were they were buzzing all of our

866
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:20,200
planes they were out flying this you

867
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:21,970
know doing 10,000 miles an hour and

868
00:47:25,140 --> 00:47:23,530
making a right-angle turn above above a

869
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:25,150
bus well everybody thought everybody

870
00:47:31,980 --> 00:47:27,569
else had this secret weapon and

871
00:47:35,790 --> 00:47:31,990
allegedly there was a deal struck saying

872
00:47:39,660 --> 00:47:35,800
okay this is bigger than all of us we

873
00:47:43,410 --> 00:47:39,670
need to support ourselves if any of us

874
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:43,420
come across down

875
00:47:48,809 --> 00:47:46,089
craft information technology whatever

876
00:47:52,410 --> 00:47:48,819
that we need to share it

877
00:47:59,900 --> 00:47:52,420
you mean including pub potentially dad

878
00:48:05,069 --> 00:47:59,910
to DNA samples you guys had mmm maybe

879
00:48:06,780 --> 00:48:05,079
maybe you know the let me finish just

880
00:48:11,660 --> 00:48:06,790
thought that I'll go to DNA samples like

881
00:48:16,289 --> 00:48:11,670
you're talking about so while the

882
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:16,299
varying countries government's agreed to

883
00:48:25,260 --> 00:48:20,530
it on top of the table we have to

884
00:48:27,780 --> 00:48:25,270
remember that here on earth until we

885
00:48:31,650 --> 00:48:27,790
come up with a different system we live

886
00:48:35,970 --> 00:48:31,660
in a capitalistic society and everybody

887
00:48:37,710 --> 00:48:35,980
is well defense minded now you and I

888
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:37,720
both mean martial arts we understand

889
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:39,970
self-defense but we're talking about

890
00:48:48,270 --> 00:48:44,770
grand scale defense the military and if

891
00:48:51,890 --> 00:48:48,280
any country comes across the alien

892
00:48:54,329 --> 00:48:51,900
technology that could make them dominant

893
00:48:56,030 --> 00:48:54,339
militaristically they're not going to

894
00:48:57,930 --> 00:48:56,040
share with anybody

895
00:48:59,870 --> 00:48:57,940
otherwise they're giving away their

896
00:49:02,840 --> 00:48:59,880
power

897
00:49:05,690 --> 00:49:02,850
you know it's like you know you're

898
00:49:08,780 --> 00:49:05,700
you're packing a gun and you come across

899
00:49:10,670 --> 00:49:08,790
some thug with a stick the club that

900
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:10,680
wants to rob you that's like you saying

901
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:14,400
well I've got this 357 but I'd say I'm

902
00:49:17,660 --> 00:49:16,290
gonna share this with you here you you

903
00:49:20,570 --> 00:49:17,670
want to rob me somebody give you my gun

904
00:49:24,260 --> 00:49:20,580
I ain't gonna happen not if they're

905
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:24,270
smart so that's the speculation in the

906
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:26,400
varying reports regarding alien

907
00:49:31,460 --> 00:49:28,890
technology they don't want the other guy

908
00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:31,470
to get it so as long as they're in

909
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:37,110
public denial right well so that's why

910
00:49:42,350 --> 00:49:39,330
I'm trying to because my question was

911
00:49:46,250 --> 00:49:42,360
about why such a brouhaha over let's

912
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:46,260
just say this DNA and you I guess by

913
00:49:50,750 --> 00:49:48,240
listening to your story you then trying

914
00:49:54,290 --> 00:49:50,760
to say that because of these pacts and

915
00:49:56,540 --> 00:49:54,300
agreements that maybe this sample that

916
00:49:58,880 --> 00:49:56,550
was submitted would fall under that that

917
00:50:01,280 --> 00:49:58,890
something unknown has come up it's

918
00:50:03,010 --> 00:50:01,290
important enough to squelch it and keep

919
00:50:09,230 --> 00:50:03,020
it on the down-low

920
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:09,240
yeah okay sure yeah because you you have

921
00:50:16,490 --> 00:50:12,090
to be forward-thinking okay and I know

922
00:50:19,420 --> 00:50:16,500
you are we're DNA sample that doesn't

923
00:50:25,700 --> 00:50:19,430
mention anything get sent to Washington

924
00:50:28,130 --> 00:50:25,710
they analyzed it you know this is public

925
00:50:30,020 --> 00:50:28,140
creature that we are trying to keep

926
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:30,030
under wraps in Republic whether it was

927
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:32,970
sasquatch whether it was a wolf creature

928
00:50:40,700 --> 00:50:38,490
a dog man or other types of aliens that

929
00:50:42,370 --> 00:50:40,710
might be out there in the woods that we

930
00:50:47,300 --> 00:50:42,380
don't know about

931
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:47,310
they can't have transparency because if

932
00:50:51,980 --> 00:50:49,890
if it says okay let's say that the blood

933
00:50:57,050 --> 00:50:51,990
sample wasn't Bigfoot let's say that it

934
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:57,060
was of some Indian then if we go forward

935
00:51:02,180 --> 00:50:59,040
with this then we are having to admit

936
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:02,190
that we have information on aliens and

937
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:04,290
all of our fellow countries are going to

938
00:51:12,020 --> 00:51:08,730
be either clamoring at us or spying on

939
00:51:13,460 --> 00:51:12,030
us or infiltrating to try to find out

940
00:51:18,550 --> 00:51:13,470
what we know

941
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:18,560
we have to remember that area 51 was not

942
00:51:26,660 --> 00:51:22,770
publicly known until Soviet recognizance

943
00:51:29,810 --> 00:51:26,670
satellites went over and cut you know

944
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:29,820
from from space got satellite pictures

945
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:32,970
of it and that made the news and then

946
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:34,800
our government finally had to admit oh

947
00:51:39,170 --> 00:51:36,330
yeah yeah

948
00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:39,180
there is already 51 we was like how do

949
00:51:45,890 --> 00:51:41,730
we cover this up they've got satellite

950
00:51:50,330 --> 00:51:45,900
pictures of the place yes our 71 was not

951
00:51:52,250 --> 00:51:50,340
admitted to being real until one crashed

952
00:51:55,490 --> 00:51:52,260
then they couldn't deny it

953
00:51:58,100 --> 00:51:55,500
okay well we'll get into the alien craft

954
00:51:59,930 --> 00:51:58,110
and an alien in the third segment so I

955
00:52:03,260 --> 00:51:59,940
just would like to if you could please

956
00:52:06,830 --> 00:52:03,270
continue then after that experience and

957
00:52:09,650 --> 00:52:06,840
what else I guess how how yours research

958
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:09,660
into Bigfoot continued to develop sure

959
00:52:15,980 --> 00:52:14,250
sure so again while is it Leonard

960
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:15,990
while I was at limited with it was very

961
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:20,130
much on my mind and I would tell people

962
00:52:25,550 --> 00:52:22,890
my story and it spread I was also the

963
00:52:27,380 --> 00:52:25,560
guy on campus that got kept from falling

964
00:52:29,660 --> 00:52:27,390
down the steps in Sibley Hall by mrs.

965
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:29,670
Sibley this the ghost of mrs. Sibley so

966
00:52:37,490 --> 00:52:31,770
I had already developed a paranormal

967
00:52:39,650 --> 00:52:37,500
reputation at the college so a couple of

968
00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:39,660
friends of mine you know one of them

969
00:52:43,370 --> 00:52:41,280
being a gallery was dating another gal

970
00:52:44,990 --> 00:52:43,380
that was a continuing the United student

971
00:52:47,930 --> 00:52:45,000
and the guy I was working with at the

972
00:52:50,570 --> 00:52:47,940
time Ripper cam all decided to go out

973
00:52:53,180 --> 00:52:50,580
and this this is the forerunner to the

974
00:52:55,730 --> 00:52:53,190
modern McKittrick coming out I'm doing

975
00:52:58,400 --> 00:52:55,740
trying to do a story we were out to Cape

976
00:53:01,190 --> 00:52:58,410
core part to try to find any kind of

977
00:53:03,230 --> 00:53:01,200
cave any kind of any area that Bigfoot

978
00:53:09,470 --> 00:53:03,240
might be able to be here and while we

979
00:53:11,300 --> 00:53:09,480
were doing that one came up on us I

980
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:11,310
always the only one of us forward they

981
00:53:17,060 --> 00:53:13,650
didn't get to see it his we found a

982
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:17,070
place at the bluffs and opening not big

983
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:19,920
enough to crawl in but definitely an

984
00:53:24,530 --> 00:53:22,770
opening into the bluffs and Rick had

985
00:53:26,819 --> 00:53:24,540
sent me up top to see if there was an

986
00:53:30,439 --> 00:53:26,829
opening up top of the formation

987
00:53:32,299 --> 00:53:30,449
so I went up there and I always probably

988
00:53:34,650 --> 00:53:32,309
walkie-talkies with me

989
00:53:40,890 --> 00:53:34,660
this is before they were cell phones of

990
00:53:43,679 --> 00:53:40,900
course I'm old so there was no opening

991
00:53:45,929 --> 00:53:43,689
that I could see i radioed back down to

992
00:53:47,819 --> 00:53:45,939
Rick I said email hey there's no

993
00:53:51,660 --> 00:53:47,829
openings what's going on down there over

994
00:53:53,669 --> 00:53:51,670
I got no response i radioed again the

995
00:53:56,579 --> 00:53:53,679
same message I got no response and then

996
00:53:58,930 --> 00:53:56,589
I noticed around me the air was really

997
00:54:00,760 --> 00:53:58,940
still

998
00:54:04,450 --> 00:54:00,770
there was no wind there was no rustling

999
00:54:07,450 --> 00:54:04,460
in the trees I couldn't hear anything it

1000
00:54:09,730 --> 00:54:07,460
was like being in a vacuum it's like

1001
00:54:13,780 --> 00:54:09,740
there is something wrong I need to go

1002
00:54:18,099 --> 00:54:13,790
back down so I'm heading back down and I

1003
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:18,109
get halfway down and I hear something

1004
00:54:22,740 --> 00:54:19,490
running in the woods and I looked up and

1005
00:54:25,829 --> 00:54:22,750
there's Rick all six-foot-four 275,000

1006
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:25,839
haulin ass out into the woods

1007
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:29,450
what is going on and I get on down to

1008
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:33,310
the bottom and there's Brehme and Beth

1009
00:54:39,069 --> 00:54:36,050
15-gallon I was dating at the time Burma

1010
00:54:43,809 --> 00:54:39,079
full-blooded Indian looking as pale as

1011
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:43,819
you it's like what happened she said she

1012
00:54:48,819 --> 00:54:47,450
saw it so what and I get this look from

1013
00:54:52,270 --> 00:54:48,829
both of them like what do you think red

1014
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:52,280
you're looking for you saw it

1015
00:55:01,120 --> 00:54:58,010
yeah a reclaim after it and probably

1016
00:55:03,490 --> 00:55:01,130
five minutes later Rick came back out of

1017
00:55:05,829 --> 00:55:03,500
breath and say man that thing can move

1018
00:55:09,700 --> 00:55:05,839
fast and I asked him what happened he

1019
00:55:11,829 --> 00:55:09,710
said Burma Beth and Rick were trying to

1020
00:55:15,430 --> 00:55:11,839
look in this hole at the bottom of blood

1021
00:55:17,620 --> 00:55:15,440
I'm up top Burma's bored so she takes

1022
00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:17,630
her field glasses out her binoculars and

1023
00:55:21,910 --> 00:55:19,730
she's doing one of these things you know

1024
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:21,920
kind of scanning the area and at one

1025
00:55:26,829 --> 00:55:24,170
point all of her vision goes black I

1026
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:26,839
said what was that she comes back and

1027
00:55:33,790 --> 00:55:29,690
she brings the glasses down and it's a

1028
00:55:38,109 --> 00:55:33,800
sasquatch that had come like within 50

1029
00:55:40,390 --> 00:55:38,119
feet and it turned and bolted

1030
00:55:42,130 --> 00:55:40,400
she said that's actually what seeing the

1031
00:55:44,770 --> 00:55:42,140
creature wasn't was scared is that

1032
00:55:49,089 --> 00:55:44,780
something that big could move that fast

1033
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:49,099
and Rick said he chased effort as long

1034
00:55:53,570 --> 00:55:51,170
as he couldn't he said I don't know what

1035
00:55:57,730 --> 00:55:53,580
happened to it was just gone

1036
00:56:00,290 --> 00:55:57,740
just gone that's a very important point

1037
00:56:04,180 --> 00:56:00,300
especially and your listeners are going

1038
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:04,190
to pick up what I said earlier I think

1039
00:56:09,950 --> 00:56:08,010
so it was quiet for a while I would

1040
00:56:12,620 --> 00:56:09,960
periodically go to out out there only

1041
00:56:16,430 --> 00:56:12,630
during the day you would never catch me

1042
00:56:19,190 --> 00:56:16,440
in creve coeur Park at night and then I

1043
00:56:22,850 --> 00:56:19,200
went years and years and years and years

1044
00:56:26,180 --> 00:56:22,860
and years not finding anything else not

1045
00:56:29,870 --> 00:56:26,190
getting any other information and then I

1046
00:56:33,140 --> 00:56:29,880
met my online on Facebook through

1047
00:56:37,820 --> 00:56:33,150
facebook my sasquatch mentor who

1048
00:56:39,710 --> 00:56:37,830
answered so many questions when she told

1049
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:39,720
me I don't receive him because she's

1050
00:56:46,550 --> 00:56:43,650
retired recently she said you know take

1051
00:56:48,830 --> 00:56:46,560
the information I've given you and use

1052
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:48,840
it just do it anonymously I don't want

1053
00:56:56,330 --> 00:56:51,770
because apparently in the Bigfoot world

1054
00:56:59,660 --> 00:56:56,340
it is so competitive everybody wants to

1055
00:57:01,700 --> 00:56:59,670
be number one everybody wants to say my

1056
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:01,710
information is right your information is

1057
00:57:08,180 --> 00:57:04,650
wrong blah blah blah blah and folks I

1058
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:08,190
can tell you I've spent time with this

1059
00:57:15,830 --> 00:57:11,330
person I've gotten on video I actually

1060
00:57:19,790 --> 00:57:15,840
got one of these creatures on camera and

1061
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:19,800
I'll get her done the link to it so he

1062
00:57:25,970 --> 00:57:21,570
can do it for honking share with you

1063
00:57:28,250 --> 00:57:25,980
guys and hey I know you saw it yeah what

1064
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:28,260
what do you give us your thoughts on

1065
00:57:31,730 --> 00:57:30,090
that first when you first showed it to

1066
00:57:34,580 --> 00:57:31,740
me we were just sitting there we're

1067
00:57:37,430 --> 00:57:34,590
about to start we're at the Steak and

1068
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:37,440
Shake right if I'm not mistaken and you

1069
00:57:41,450 --> 00:57:39,450
just turned a laptop around and we're

1070
00:57:44,210 --> 00:57:41,460
showing me the footage and so I'm

1071
00:57:46,190 --> 00:57:44,220
watching and I kind of you haven't told

1072
00:57:49,940 --> 00:57:46,200
me much so I figured okay you guys are

1073
00:57:53,030 --> 00:57:49,950
out recording things and the way the

1074
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:53,040
trees were broken off and and I guess

1075
00:57:57,740 --> 00:57:55,050
formed in a certain certain way that

1076
00:57:59,870 --> 00:57:57,750
just didn't look natural and that's when

1077
00:58:02,630 --> 00:57:59,880
I guess that the shot

1078
00:58:04,970 --> 00:58:02,640
Wilda frame that I remember kind of hand

1079
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:04,980
back and forth and I look at you I

1080
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:06,850
looked down I said

1081
00:58:13,860 --> 00:58:09,850
how many words there and you said three

1082
00:58:16,830 --> 00:58:13,870
of you one in the car and two I guess

1083
00:58:18,630 --> 00:58:16,840
you guys were talking so you're talking

1084
00:58:21,039 --> 00:58:18,640
about a story I told you that's not the

1085
00:58:27,009 --> 00:58:24,039
the video are out in the woods right

1086
00:58:31,870 --> 00:58:27,019
wait will you pan the camera right I did

1087
00:58:33,039 --> 00:58:31,880
I and I'm talking and I thought that's

1088
00:58:34,599 --> 00:58:33,049
what I'm referring to

1089
00:58:36,759 --> 00:58:34,609
well there were two or three or four

1090
00:58:39,849 --> 00:58:36,769
unless you saw something that I know no

1091
00:58:41,889 --> 00:58:39,859
no no I'm talking about you a friend of

1092
00:58:44,889 --> 00:58:41,899
yours and a gallon to card that's what I

1093
00:58:46,689 --> 00:58:44,899
was asking how many oh right that's what

1094
00:58:49,389 --> 00:58:46,699
I meant how many people were there as I

1095
00:58:51,130 --> 00:58:49,399
was trying to to see okay could this be

1096
00:58:52,779 --> 00:58:51,140
someone else I said well if you're

1097
00:58:55,269 --> 00:58:52,789
talking to the guy and the Gallus in the

1098
00:58:57,009 --> 00:58:55,279
car who's this and then you just kind of

1099
00:58:58,809 --> 00:58:57,019
smiled and nodded you how cuz it was

1100
00:59:01,029 --> 00:58:58,819
that that brown figure correct

1101
00:59:02,529 --> 00:59:01,039
right right right it's been a while

1102
00:59:04,659 --> 00:59:02,539
since I've seen it but yeah that was

1103
00:59:06,370 --> 00:59:04,669
pretty amazing and then I asked you so

1104
00:59:11,699 --> 00:59:06,380
why didn't you continue filming and then

1105
00:59:16,179 --> 00:59:11,709
you said it was purely advice

1106
00:59:20,620 --> 00:59:16,189
happenstance I my cameras all the way

1107
00:59:22,389 --> 00:59:20,630
over there anyway I've learned that when

1108
00:59:26,949 --> 00:59:22,399
we're talking something paranormal where

1109
00:59:29,249 --> 00:59:26,959
they're talking Bigfoot spirit UFO

1110
00:59:34,059 --> 00:59:29,259
whatever it happens in its own time you

1111
00:59:35,859 --> 00:59:34,069
know Here I am and then gone so if you

1112
00:59:36,489 --> 00:59:35,869
don't have something running you're

1113
00:59:39,219 --> 00:59:36,499
gonna miss it

1114
00:59:41,139 --> 00:59:39,229
so I'd make a habit of I'm always got

1115
00:59:44,889 --> 00:59:41,149
that camera running and that's what I

1116
00:59:47,859 --> 00:59:44,899
was doing I just recorded a twisted tree

1117
00:59:50,349 --> 00:59:47,869
limb that is a sign of Sasquatch the

1118
00:59:52,689 --> 00:59:50,359
sponson foot mirror and they'll do that

1119
00:59:55,949 --> 00:59:52,699
they've got structures they've got

1120
00:59:59,319 --> 00:59:55,959
almost a sign language thing that they

1121
01:00:02,799 --> 00:59:59,329
used between them to send messages to

1122
01:00:04,719 --> 01:00:02,809
each other and to their young but I just

1123
01:00:07,419 --> 01:00:04,729
gotten through recording that I kept the

1124
01:00:09,849 --> 01:00:07,429
camera running I bring it down and I'm

1125
01:00:11,799 --> 01:00:09,859
I'm I'm not even paying attention over

1126
01:00:14,259 --> 01:00:11,809
saying and I'm walking through brush

1127
01:00:16,749 --> 01:00:14,269
walking through some I don't think I ran

1128
01:00:19,959 --> 01:00:16,759
across stickers but you hear me on

1129
01:00:21,519 --> 01:00:19,969
camera say I need to start having that

1130
01:00:24,839 --> 01:00:21,529
direction where David is over by the

1131
01:00:27,230 --> 01:00:24,849
teepee structure like a like a wooden

1132
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:27,240
teepee structure

1133
01:00:34,940 --> 01:00:30,450
it is I start to go that way I bring my

1134
01:00:37,099 --> 01:00:34,950
arm up to to go over some brush and in

1135
01:00:38,930 --> 01:00:37,109
that in that moment I stop and then I

1136
01:00:43,670 --> 01:00:38,940
start to swing the camera over in that

1137
01:00:48,470 --> 01:00:43,680
one moment I got you know maybe two

1138
01:00:52,250 --> 01:00:48,480
seconds maybe of the distance and in

1139
01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:52,260
that two seconds there's that prompt

1140
01:01:00,260 --> 01:00:57,890
that you're probably 50 60 70 feet away

1141
01:01:02,930 --> 01:01:00,270
completely still I did not know this

1142
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:02,940
until we finished doing what we were

1143
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:06,089
doing even we went back to the house I'm

1144
01:01:11,210 --> 01:01:09,690
really interested to see what if a chant

1145
01:01:12,859 --> 01:01:11,220
you know if the people get a chance to

1146
01:01:15,380 --> 01:01:12,869
see that because I will have the link

1147
01:01:17,530 --> 01:01:15,390
hopefully in the description so they can

1148
01:01:19,790 --> 01:01:17,540
see this for themselves because

1149
01:01:22,099 --> 01:01:19,800
especially what I like about you you

1150
01:01:23,570 --> 01:01:22,109
know even even if if in your heart you

1151
01:01:26,060 --> 01:01:23,580
feel like I'm pretty sure I know what I

1152
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:26,070
got you still keep that the skeptical

1153
01:01:31,010 --> 01:01:28,650
mind going you know and you know that

1154
01:01:34,550 --> 01:01:31,020
this is you know I don't want to put

1155
01:01:37,849 --> 01:01:34,560
words in your mouth but that this still

1156
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:37,859
would require some analysis and an other

1157
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:41,730
I guess looking into oh okay is you know

1158
01:01:49,370 --> 01:01:42,690
what this was

1159
01:01:56,990 --> 01:01:49,380
captured for anybody else

1160
01:01:59,290 --> 01:01:57,000
yeah can I say definitively but it was

1161
01:02:03,550 --> 01:01:59,300
Bigfoot

1162
01:02:07,130 --> 01:02:03,560
how in any of this do we say anything

1163
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:07,140
definitively which is what I think we

1164
01:02:13,180 --> 01:02:08,730
let off with with this interview with

1165
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:13,190
that one question there are no experts

1166
01:02:19,859 --> 01:02:16,450
you know if you understand the term

1167
01:02:24,700 --> 01:02:19,869
expert that means that you have

1168
01:02:25,900 --> 01:02:24,710
knowledge all that is in that we're

1169
01:02:28,980 --> 01:02:25,910
still investigating we're still

1170
01:02:32,109 --> 01:02:28,990
researching but there is no absolute

1171
01:02:34,329 --> 01:02:32,119
knowledge that we can refer to we can we

1172
01:02:37,750 --> 01:02:34,339
can go back to anecdotal and we can see

1173
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:37,760
a picture forming of information and

1174
01:02:48,670 --> 01:02:45,410
data but we can't say for sure and Dave

1175
01:02:50,859 --> 01:02:48,680
the guy was I was out [\h__\h] with he's

1176
01:02:54,339 --> 01:02:50,869
the one that actually discovered this

1177
01:02:57,579 --> 01:02:54,349
dave has a hearing issue he's partially

1178
01:02:59,980 --> 01:02:57,589
deaf or mostly deaf so his eyes have

1179
01:03:04,390 --> 01:02:59,990
compensated for his his deafness and

1180
01:03:06,789 --> 01:03:04,400
when we got that back to the house I may

1181
01:03:09,730 --> 01:03:06,799
I promise these guys I'm anything I shot

1182
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:09,740
did get a copy of so we're transferring

1183
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:13,250
to their computer system and his

1184
01:03:17,950 --> 01:03:16,250
computer monitor was huge it's like even

1185
01:03:21,150 --> 01:03:17,960
a third larger than mine is right now

1186
01:03:23,890 --> 01:03:21,160
and we're running it and he's looking

1187
01:03:26,049 --> 01:03:23,900
aces blame him blame him back it up

1188
01:03:27,670 --> 01:03:26,059
and I backed it up and he placed in the

1189
01:03:35,559 --> 01:03:27,680
screen what's that and I'm looking a

1190
01:03:40,750 --> 01:03:35,569
psyche holy crap oh my god this has

1191
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:40,760
gotta be it's humanoid its bipedal dark

1192
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:46,450
brown bulky right here and it's big

1193
01:03:51,609 --> 01:03:49,450
there was nobody else out there with us

1194
01:03:54,819 --> 01:03:51,619
literally at that time it appeared

1195
01:03:58,089 --> 01:03:54,829
female because it almost if it felt like

1196
01:04:00,220 --> 01:03:58,099
or base under the image as if that I

1197
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:00,230
guess the fur was covering up I guess

1198
01:04:06,039 --> 01:04:03,410
the bumps were breasts would go and you

1199
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:06,049
know what my Bigfoot mentor said the

1200
01:04:11,070 --> 01:04:07,730
same thing that's what she saw I know

1201
01:04:14,700 --> 01:04:11,080
you gotta have super peepers

1202
01:04:18,210 --> 01:04:14,710
to see the stuff I guess you got you've

1203
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:18,220
got those super peepers because I I

1204
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:23,010
don't necessarily see that but

1205
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:25,410
said not only was a female but it was

1206
01:04:33,470 --> 01:04:30,810
carrying at least one baby Bigfoot well

1207
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:33,480
sure I'm sure everyone will you know

1208
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:35,130
they'll have a chance to see it I

1209
01:04:38,990 --> 01:04:36,810
actually would like to get get through a

1210
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:39,000
few more subjects with you if you don't

1211
01:04:44,060 --> 01:04:41,970
mind I'm wanting to kind of I think

1212
01:04:46,550 --> 01:04:44,070
we've got a pretty good story how you

1213
01:04:51,530 --> 01:04:46,560
started out and and thinks thinks you've

1214
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:51,540
done so based on between now and maybe I

1215
01:04:56,570 --> 01:04:53,970
guess from that moment until now what

1216
01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:56,580
are the things I guess

1217
01:05:00,530 --> 01:04:58,410
did you guys because this cover is

1218
01:05:04,730 --> 01:05:00,540
especially like the the story when you

1219
01:05:05,450 --> 01:05:04,740
would keep talking about visit them what

1220
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:05,460
is it called

1221
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:10,050
us versus certain term you used they

1222
01:05:18,490 --> 01:05:15,090
they have the capacity to change the

1223
01:05:23,460 --> 01:05:18,500
overall color of their eyes okay and

1224
01:05:25,380 --> 01:05:23,470
they glow it's they call it

1225
01:05:29,420 --> 01:05:25,390
some people call it eyes shine and that

1226
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:29,430
shined okay I'm sorry I shine a sign

1227
01:05:33,950 --> 01:05:31,690
because when you say when you say I

1228
01:05:38,010 --> 01:05:33,960
shine people immediately think of

1229
01:05:40,250 --> 01:05:38,020
animals reflecting light and this is not

1230
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:40,260
what this is this is me rice are

1231
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:42,330
self-illuminating

1232
01:05:48,530 --> 01:05:47,010
and they will they I don't want to say

1233
01:05:50,930 --> 01:05:48,540
Morse code because I'm sure it's not

1234
01:05:54,890 --> 01:05:50,940
Morse code is their own language they

1235
01:05:57,310 --> 01:05:54,900
will they will blink independent eyes

1236
01:06:01,010 --> 01:05:57,320
are together whatever and they can also

1237
01:06:05,270 --> 01:06:01,020
say for example make this ILO and this

1238
01:06:08,060 --> 01:06:05,280
eye green and that's a language

1239
01:06:12,230 --> 01:06:08,070
so they communicate a lot between each

1240
01:06:13,910 --> 01:06:12,240
other with their eyes and how I mean

1241
01:06:15,590 --> 01:06:13,920
this is based on the information you

1242
01:06:19,010 --> 01:06:15,600
mentor gave you or something else you

1243
01:06:20,030 --> 01:06:19,020
guys discovered based on information my

1244
01:06:25,010 --> 01:06:20,040
mentor gave me

1245
01:06:31,250 --> 01:06:25,020
they are also telepathic if if you if

1246
01:06:38,990 --> 01:06:35,690
the psychic world it's been said for

1247
01:06:41,630 --> 01:06:39,000
every day everybody is psychic you just

1248
01:06:45,590 --> 01:06:41,640
have to exercise that muscle right

1249
01:06:51,700 --> 01:06:45,600
psychic muscle so everybody is psychic

1250
01:06:55,460 --> 01:06:51,710
to varying degrees okay when my mentor

1251
01:06:58,340 --> 01:06:55,470
started dealing with these beings when

1252
01:07:01,640 --> 01:06:58,350
she and her brother were 14 and 15 and

1253
01:07:04,850 --> 01:07:01,650
as she says both accomplished martial

1254
01:07:07,750 --> 01:07:04,860
artists in their own right and there was

1255
01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:07,760
stuff going on on in their mom's yard

1256
01:07:13,220 --> 01:07:11,280
they would dress themselves up a ninja

1257
01:07:14,990 --> 01:07:13,230
they would be all in black and go out

1258
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:15,000
there to you know fight the good ninja

1259
01:07:19,940 --> 01:07:17,370
fight and be tossed around like nobody's

1260
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:19,950
business they it's like what is doing

1261
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:23,610
this to us and it wasn't until she was

1262
01:07:33,650 --> 01:07:29,610
35 that she communication that's when

1263
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:33,660
she discovered the Sasquatch and that

1264
01:07:40,490 --> 01:07:37,650
there are clams there are they have a

1265
01:07:44,780 --> 01:07:40,500
family structure a nice I don't want to

1266
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:44,790
say civilization like ours but they they

1267
01:07:52,820 --> 01:07:50,450
marry they have children they educate I

1268
01:07:54,380 --> 01:07:52,830
guess almost what you could say is all

1269
01:08:03,500 --> 01:07:54,390
of the good traits that you would find

1270
01:08:09,140 --> 01:08:03,510
in humans they do okay what else this is

1271
01:08:11,690 --> 01:08:09,150
the I guess just a large body structure

1272
01:08:14,690 --> 01:08:11,700
and fur a common commonality in

1273
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:14,700
Sasquatch Bigfoot or is that just a

1274
01:08:24,260 --> 01:08:20,250
particular offshoot I would say a

1275
01:08:26,809 --> 01:08:24,270
commonality and the one that I saw in

1276
01:08:30,140 --> 01:08:26,819
Creek or Park I would say it moved

1277
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:30,150
between two trees and I was there was a

1278
01:08:36,170 --> 01:08:33,330
knot on one of the trees in his head

1279
01:08:38,390 --> 01:08:36,180
chopped off at that knot so I was able

1280
01:08:42,030 --> 01:08:38,400
to go back and measure it was 10 feet

1281
01:08:47,670 --> 01:08:42,040
tall my says

1282
01:08:51,900 --> 01:08:47,680
mentor has seen Sasquatch that are 20

1283
01:08:54,270 --> 01:08:51,910
feet tall 30 feet tall they are big they

1284
01:08:57,450 --> 01:08:54,280
there is no indication that they are

1285
01:09:01,079 --> 01:08:57,460
what's referred to as Nephilim okay a

1286
01:09:04,620 --> 01:09:01,089
lot of people out there are trying to

1287
01:09:08,099 --> 01:09:04,630
say they are the Nephilim there is no

1288
01:09:11,340 --> 01:09:08,109
indication that they are okay now at

1289
01:09:14,039 --> 01:09:11,350
that same time there's not necessarily

1290
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:14,049
an indication that there are not this is

1291
01:09:19,620 --> 01:09:17,290
where we run into a huge issue

1292
01:09:23,340 --> 01:09:19,630
in these realms that we're trying to get

1293
01:09:27,059 --> 01:09:23,350
to know about because for example in

1294
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:27,069
ufology with the greys the one

1295
01:09:33,090 --> 01:09:29,770
consistency thing seems to be that they

1296
01:09:34,410 --> 01:09:33,100
are deceitful and I think this is part

1297
01:09:36,690 --> 01:09:34,420
of the reason that some people want to

1298
01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:36,700
say well you know they're really demons

1299
01:09:44,039 --> 01:09:41,440
I hold demons in this category and greys

1300
01:09:46,500 --> 01:09:44,049
and a whole other category but people

1301
01:09:50,670 --> 01:09:46,510
weren't quick-fix I was like you know

1302
01:09:55,740 --> 01:09:50,680
how do we evidence anything so did so

1303
01:09:58,500 --> 01:09:55,750
did you guys find or was there something

1304
01:10:04,080 --> 01:09:58,510
that gave you an indication that there

1305
01:10:07,260 --> 01:10:04,090
might be a et Sasquatch link as some

1306
01:10:08,850 --> 01:10:07,270
people have I guess kind of suspected in

1307
01:10:10,290 --> 01:10:08,860
the past or whatever what are your

1308
01:10:17,220 --> 01:10:10,300
thoughts on that

1309
01:10:21,630 --> 01:10:17,230
people that have claimed to seen Bigfoot

1310
01:10:24,300 --> 01:10:21,640
come up alien craft saw some creature

1311
01:10:27,030 --> 01:10:24,310
that looks a lot like sasquatch

1312
01:10:31,740 --> 01:10:27,040
but I don't think it is a sasquatch I

1313
01:10:34,830 --> 01:10:31,750
think it's some other alien type my

1314
01:10:36,780 --> 01:10:34,840
Sasquatch mentor has told me based on

1315
01:10:40,850 --> 01:10:36,790
her communications with the one she

1316
01:10:45,470 --> 01:10:43,820
and this may be hard for those of you

1317
01:10:47,900 --> 01:10:45,480
out there that have a hard time

1318
01:10:51,530 --> 01:10:47,910
accepting the idea of humans being

1319
01:10:53,770 --> 01:10:51,540
abducted by aliens your heads gonna spin

1320
01:10:57,310 --> 01:10:53,780
when I tell you that there are

1321
01:11:02,960 --> 01:10:57,320
assessments that get abducted by aliens

1322
01:11:07,250 --> 01:11:02,970
that my mentor has witnessed Sasquatch

1323
01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:07,260
near her home running for cover when a

1324
01:11:12,890 --> 01:11:11,040
UFO comes overhead they're not happy

1325
01:11:17,380 --> 01:11:12,900
with that situation sheet on the

1326
01:11:20,300 --> 01:11:17,390
property that they've had their has been

1327
01:11:23,060 --> 01:11:20,310
reptilians in fact this is a fun one

1328
01:11:25,130 --> 01:11:23,070
when I was up there and going down a

1329
01:11:27,050 --> 01:11:25,140
highway with them during the day she got

1330
01:11:31,610 --> 01:11:27,060
an urge to take pictures out the side

1331
01:11:33,230 --> 01:11:31,620
and she took some pictures and and and

1332
01:11:35,150 --> 01:11:33,240
she knows and this is something

1333
01:11:36,620 --> 01:11:35,160
important for everybody to know if

1334
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:36,630
you're going to document something

1335
01:11:47,650 --> 01:11:41,730
you're seeing please use video on your

1336
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:47,660
phone and please get comparison footage

1337
01:11:52,250 --> 01:11:50,370
that helps a great deal if you if you

1338
01:11:54,830 --> 01:11:52,260
see something in the video let's say

1339
01:11:56,540 --> 01:11:54,840
that you're taking your kid to school at

1340
01:11:58,490 --> 01:11:56,550
8 o'clock in the morning wherever you're

1341
01:12:00,140 --> 01:11:58,500
at but all the way back do you think you

1342
01:12:01,460 --> 01:12:00,150
see something you whip your camera out

1343
01:12:03,770 --> 01:12:01,470
and you get it on camera

1344
01:12:05,510 --> 01:12:03,780
the next day you take your kid to school

1345
01:12:07,250 --> 01:12:05,520
but at the same time in that same place

1346
01:12:10,370 --> 01:12:07,260
taking another picture take more video

1347
01:12:12,110 --> 01:12:10,380
and compare the two if you don't see the

1348
01:12:13,820 --> 01:12:12,120
same thing you got in the first video in

1349
01:12:16,310 --> 01:12:13,830
the second video chances are you got

1350
01:12:17,900 --> 01:12:16,320
something if you see the same thing

1351
01:12:22,550 --> 01:12:17,910
chances are it's natural to the

1352
01:12:24,020 --> 01:12:22,560
environment uphold the electric pole you

1353
01:12:26,470 --> 01:12:24,030
didn't know was there or likely didn't

1354
01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:26,480
it was there you never paid attention to

1355
01:12:34,610 --> 01:12:32,490
but in this picture and it's clear but I

1356
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:34,620
was like oh my god look what you've got

1357
01:12:48,390 --> 01:12:42,750
watch and a gray

1358
01:12:50,370 --> 01:12:48,400
kind of near each other near this sign

1359
01:12:52,290 --> 01:12:50,380
that said something about you know

1360
01:12:54,510 --> 01:12:52,300
electrical cable down or something like

1361
01:12:58,550 --> 01:12:54,520
that she will share that picture what

1362
01:13:05,870 --> 01:13:02,960
ask her I don't know I don't know but

1363
01:13:09,020 --> 01:13:05,880
yeah I saw it I was like do you realize

1364
01:13:10,550 --> 01:13:09,030
what you've got here only because it

1365
01:13:13,670 --> 01:13:10,560
stood out enough from the environment

1366
01:13:15,590 --> 01:13:13,680
that I was able to see it like I said

1367
01:13:18,620 --> 01:13:15,600
without David I would I probably would

1368
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:18,630
never seen the worm off from a distance

1369
01:13:24,530 --> 01:13:20,850
so just to I guess wrap up the the

1370
01:13:26,510 --> 01:13:24,540
Bigfoot a segment what would you

1371
01:13:29,630 --> 01:13:26,520
recommend for people that are either

1372
01:13:33,770 --> 01:13:29,640
I guess wanting to either go out and

1373
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:33,780
film or trying to communicate whether it

1374
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:35,610
would be telepathically or any otherwise

1375
01:13:42,620 --> 01:13:38,850
what would you recommend someone who who

1376
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:42,630
I guess as it has been in the field for

1377
01:13:48,710 --> 01:13:46,170
a long time and maybe didn't know didn't

1378
01:13:50,810 --> 01:13:48,720
think of this process or someone who is

1379
01:13:54,650 --> 01:13:50,820
brand new and to give them something to

1380
01:13:58,600 --> 01:13:54,660
start out with you must approach with a

1381
01:14:02,060 --> 01:13:58,610
pure heart with no ill intent whatsoever

1382
01:14:09,050 --> 01:14:02,070
towards them okay that's number one

1383
01:14:17,180 --> 01:14:12,890
assuring respect is not fearing you have

1384
01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:19,710
when I was trying to prefer my friends

1385
01:14:24,420 --> 01:14:22,450
to go out to Creek or Park in case we

1386
01:14:26,250 --> 01:14:24,430
would come across the creature they used

1387
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:26,260
to tell them you need to take time go to

1388
01:14:32,970 --> 01:14:29,050
the zoo and observe the gorillas and

1389
01:14:37,170 --> 01:14:32,980
observe the Bears is the kind of a cross

1390
01:14:43,140 --> 01:14:37,180
between them so you're ready visually if

1391
01:14:47,820 --> 01:14:43,150
you were to come across a sasquatch be

1392
01:14:49,710 --> 01:14:47,830
aware of how you're feeling because the

1393
01:14:51,990 --> 01:14:49,720
face they can sense you they can sense

1394
01:14:57,480 --> 01:14:52,000
you a mile away okay

1395
01:14:59,370 --> 01:14:57,490
they're very psychic and there's this is

1396
01:15:00,660 --> 01:14:59,380
speculated and there's been a number of

1397
01:15:04,440 --> 01:15:00,670
people that have talked about feeling

1398
01:15:08,220 --> 01:15:04,450
this my advice mentor as well if they

1399
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:08,230
like you and don't mind you being in the

1400
01:15:13,970 --> 01:15:11,050
air they're very territorial so if they

1401
01:15:20,220 --> 01:15:13,980
don't mind you being there they may even

1402
01:15:23,430 --> 01:15:20,230
project to you a ultrasound which will

1403
01:15:27,330 --> 01:15:23,440
make you feel comfortable and good if

1404
01:15:30,530 --> 01:15:27,340
they don't like you they don't by

1405
01:15:33,300 --> 01:15:30,540
projecting what they think is infrasound

1406
01:15:35,310 --> 01:15:33,310
then they can start giving you a

1407
01:15:37,500 --> 01:15:35,320
headache making you feel nauseous making

1408
01:15:41,100 --> 01:15:37,510
you feel like you want to pass out leave

1409
01:15:43,890 --> 01:15:41,110
the area that's being respectful

1410
01:15:46,350 --> 01:15:43,900
that's like saying okay okay you don't

1411
01:15:48,530 --> 01:15:46,360
want me here okay I get it I'm leaving

1412
01:15:54,690 --> 01:15:48,540
I'm sorry I did not mean to intrude

1413
01:15:58,040 --> 01:15:54,700
ultimate respect is required and what's

1414
01:16:02,640 --> 01:15:58,050
really important is to recognize the

1415
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:02,650
structures that they've put in and this

1416
01:16:08,550 --> 01:16:04,170
is the best way to know if you're in

1417
01:16:13,860 --> 01:16:08,560
Bigfoot territory the treats watch the

1418
01:16:17,990 --> 01:16:13,870
trees especially for branches that from

1419
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:18,000
a height of 8 or 10 feet limbs that are

1420
01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:21,610
seem to be not just broken but twisted

1421
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:24,640
and broken now that's a sign that

1422
01:16:28,770 --> 01:16:27,570
something's grabbed it and twisted it a

1423
01:16:30,629 --> 01:16:28,780
bear's

1424
01:16:32,279 --> 01:16:30,639
I'm gonna do that there isn't anything

1425
01:16:37,879 --> 01:16:32,289
we have in the woods that's going to do

1426
01:16:44,149 --> 01:16:37,889
that except the size watch watch for

1427
01:16:53,100 --> 01:16:48,200
watch for teepees

1428
01:16:55,859 --> 01:16:53,110
made of wooden branches and the way that

1429
01:16:58,080 --> 01:16:55,869
you distinguish these branches and trees

1430
01:17:02,040 --> 01:16:58,090
and the teepees are that they are

1431
01:17:04,500 --> 01:17:02,050
typically made up of limbs from trees

1432
01:17:06,899 --> 01:17:04,510
that are not found in the immediate area

1433
01:17:08,850 --> 01:17:06,909
you know most of us if we go out to the

1434
01:17:11,850 --> 01:17:08,860
woods and a park or whatever worked out

1435
01:17:14,250 --> 01:17:11,860
traipsing through we've seen you know

1436
01:17:16,290 --> 01:17:14,260
branches that may have broken up off the

1437
01:17:18,660 --> 01:17:16,300
tree from up and then fallen and gotten

1438
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:18,670
caught in the tree and that's what we

1439
01:17:27,029 --> 01:17:22,690
assume all of this is but if you are

1440
01:17:31,649 --> 01:17:27,039
observant and if you do a study of trees

1441
01:17:35,459 --> 01:17:31,659
bought me and you see a tree that has a

1442
01:17:39,959 --> 01:17:35,469
different barking covering to it than

1443
01:17:42,149 --> 01:17:39,969
the tree it's in a skew that doesn't

1444
01:17:43,470 --> 01:17:42,159
look like a piece of that tree and maybe

1445
01:17:46,589 --> 01:17:43,480
you'll find two or three or four

1446
01:17:49,140 --> 01:17:46,599
different kinds of tree limbs in that

1447
01:17:53,609 --> 01:17:49,150
same tree chances are you've got

1448
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:53,619
Sasquatch doing something okay so first

1449
01:17:57,569 --> 01:17:54,730
you need to be aware of your

1450
01:18:02,450 --> 01:17:57,579
surroundings be aware of how you feel

1451
01:18:06,569 --> 01:18:02,460
and be respectful and pure of heart

1452
01:18:09,169 --> 01:18:06,579
now there's the trick and this is part

1453
01:18:11,270 --> 01:18:09,179
of the reason that I have not

1454
01:18:18,229 --> 01:18:11,280
finish the seminars this used to do

1455
01:18:21,620 --> 01:18:18,239
online because her whole purpose for a

1456
01:18:25,229 --> 01:18:21,630
while was to make you able to connect

1457
01:18:28,350 --> 01:18:25,239
with the Sasquatch people

1458
01:18:32,850 --> 01:18:28,360
the problem that you have if they accept

1459
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:32,860
you if they accept you is family me casa

1460
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:35,330
su casa

1461
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:37,730
they they're fine with you being in

1462
01:18:42,580 --> 01:18:40,370
their territory in their home you have

1463
01:18:45,670 --> 01:18:42,590
to be fine with sharing your home with

1464
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:45,680
them they are capable don't come onto

1465
01:18:54,610 --> 01:18:48,410
your property they will come into your

1466
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:54,620
house and play around mess around if you

1467
01:19:01,000 --> 01:18:57,050
have food that they like so take your

1468
01:19:02,830 --> 01:19:01,010
food meter don't it this happened with

1469
01:19:04,410 --> 01:19:02,840
David one time he had gotten a whole

1470
01:19:08,590 --> 01:19:04,420
case of cream soda

1471
01:19:10,210 --> 01:19:08,600
he got up one morning and decided he was

1472
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:10,220
going to go and get himself a cream soda

1473
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:12,770
he had a case of it in the refrigerator

1474
01:19:18,580 --> 01:19:14,810
and willing to get it and it was all

1475
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:18,590
gone and he accused the child in the

1476
01:19:23,270 --> 01:19:21,290
house his drummer what the hell ever -

1477
01:19:27,710 --> 01:19:23,280
my cream soda

1478
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:27,720
and she said look please bring his soda

1479
01:19:37,180 --> 01:19:31,170
back and half of it came back I have

1480
01:19:41,300 --> 01:19:37,190
been hidden up and drink do not do not

1481
01:19:44,930 --> 01:19:41,310
try to leave gifts for the big trip if

1482
01:19:47,830 --> 01:19:44,940
they have not accepted you they look at

1483
01:19:53,549 --> 01:19:49,479
it's not pure apartment you're trying to

1484
01:19:56,910 --> 01:19:53,559
bribe them they don't like that

1485
01:19:59,069 --> 01:19:56,920
so I mean if you're gonna do what you're

1486
01:20:02,089 --> 01:19:59,079
gonna do it but the advice is do not do

1487
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:02,099
it if you never want to get a true real

1488
01:20:08,399 --> 01:20:05,650
good relationship with the clan that

1489
01:20:09,359 --> 01:20:08,409
that is around you and there are also

1490
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:09,369
renegades

1491
01:20:15,870 --> 01:20:12,130
there are also Sasquatch that have

1492
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:15,880
violated the rules of that particular

1493
01:20:21,930 --> 01:20:17,650
planner of that society and have been

1494
01:20:23,330 --> 01:20:21,940
kicked out like like giving the scarlet

1495
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:23,340
letter

1496
01:20:27,810 --> 01:20:25,570
do you want it you want to break the

1497
01:20:29,310 --> 01:20:27,820
rules you go live on your own yeah I

1498
01:20:31,169 --> 01:20:29,320
think there's something that most people

1499
01:20:34,979 --> 01:20:31,179
don't consider because we always think

1500
01:20:37,290 --> 01:20:34,989
they're all live only in one particular

1501
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:37,300
way but then when you look at humans you

1502
01:20:42,930 --> 01:20:40,210
don't know who you're talking to right

1503
01:20:47,250 --> 01:20:42,940
exactly exactly and they have observed

1504
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:47,260
humans right and when I when when my

1505
01:20:54,620 --> 01:20:51,730
mentor and I were first talking she got

1506
01:20:58,979 --> 01:20:54,630
thrilled with the idea that I do video

1507
01:21:03,959 --> 01:20:58,989
because she had been communicated to in

1508
01:21:07,589 --> 01:21:03,969
that they there's a split right now now

1509
01:21:11,790 --> 01:21:07,599
this is god when was that there was back

1510
01:21:14,010 --> 01:21:11,800
in 14 that was four years ago that half

1511
01:21:17,810 --> 01:21:14,020
of the Sasquatch population wanted to

1512
01:21:20,189 --> 01:21:17,820
reveal themselves to humans half did not

1513
01:21:24,180 --> 01:21:20,199
because they're aware of something

1514
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:24,190
coming and they want to help us some of

1515
01:21:32,970 --> 01:21:28,449
them some of them are like keep those in

1516
01:21:37,260 --> 01:21:32,980
theirs away from me uh uh so in the last

1517
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:37,270
that I heard was that there's still a

1518
01:21:46,350 --> 01:21:42,130
split they there is this they feel a

1519
01:21:49,020 --> 01:21:46,360
need to slowly reveal themselves so I

1520
01:21:50,430 --> 01:21:49,030
think very much like aliens and UFOs I

1521
01:21:53,729 --> 01:21:50,440
think that's going to be on a very much

1522
01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:53,739
an individual basis and though since you

1523
01:21:58,859 --> 01:21:55,360
first before they reveal themselves to

1524
01:22:04,470 --> 01:21:58,869
you do not make the mistake of taking a

1525
01:22:06,790 --> 01:22:04,480
gun with you I even used to speculate

1526
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:06,800
when I'm going to cream core part of

1527
01:22:12,770 --> 01:22:09,330
well I wonder if a tranquilizer gun

1528
01:22:15,020 --> 01:22:12,780
would be an option the only problem with

1529
01:22:16,010 --> 01:22:15,030
that is you don't know what animal

1530
01:22:17,540 --> 01:22:16,020
you're dealing you don't know where

1531
01:22:19,610 --> 01:22:17,550
sasquatches you don't know the weight

1532
01:22:22,430 --> 01:22:19,620
you don't know the effect of the

1533
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:22,440
whatever chemical the tranquilizers

1534
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:25,290
built up so that wouldn't work I

1535
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:29,130
eventually got to the point because this

1536
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:31,610
is back when I knew nothing bad man I

1537
01:22:38,870 --> 01:22:35,130
have sewn into my my field jacket

1538
01:22:40,700 --> 01:22:38,880
pockets for the old road flares the kind

1539
01:22:44,170 --> 01:22:40,710
that you would take the plastic cap off

1540
01:22:47,330 --> 01:22:44,180
Club ignite at the tip and in fire

1541
01:22:49,790 --> 01:22:47,340
because I asked my my biology teacher at

1542
01:22:51,830 --> 01:22:49,800
Lindenwood I said if you had to go into

1543
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:51,840
the woods and you couldn't take any

1544
01:22:55,220 --> 01:22:53,850
firearms you couldn't take a bow and

1545
01:22:56,780 --> 01:22:55,230
arrow you couldn't take anything like

1546
01:22:59,090 --> 01:22:56,790
that what would she take to protect

1547
01:23:00,650 --> 01:22:59,100
yourself and she thought for a moment

1548
01:23:03,830 --> 01:23:00,660
she said fire

1549
01:23:05,900 --> 01:23:03,840
I said fire she goes yeah anything

1550
01:23:10,250 --> 01:23:05,910
living is made of protoplasm and

1551
01:23:16,460 --> 01:23:12,560
so road flares and not considered

1552
01:23:18,350 --> 01:23:16,470
weapons except of course to the Bigfoot

1553
01:23:21,500 --> 01:23:18,360
that they can read your mind and they

1554
01:23:26,300 --> 01:23:21,510
have this image of you doing that and

1555
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:26,310
this is where the trust and the pure of

1556
01:23:30,620 --> 01:23:28,890
heart comes in and they'll and don't

1557
01:23:32,150 --> 01:23:30,630
texted the young ones especially will

1558
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:32,160
test you the young ones are very curious

1559
01:23:40,070 --> 01:23:35,370
I got to see a young one in cuivre River

1560
01:23:41,690 --> 01:23:40,080
State Park here in Missouri and I was I

1561
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:41,700
ever able to talk to you about that I

1562
01:23:46,220 --> 01:23:43,410
don't know I don't remember if I did or

1563
01:23:48,740 --> 01:23:46,230
not um I don't think so I don't remember

1564
01:23:51,050 --> 01:23:48,750
that conversation I was up there with my

1565
01:23:54,020 --> 01:23:51,060
mentor she was preparing to introduce

1566
01:23:59,660 --> 01:23:54,030
her cousin to the clan that was in in

1567
01:24:03,530 --> 01:23:59,670
Crete in cuivre River and I was their

1568
01:24:07,100 --> 01:24:03,540
first time at night in a park since

1569
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:07,110
creeper farm but I had you know David

1570
01:24:13,250 --> 01:24:10,050
was there a friend of theirs named Rick

1571
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:13,260
was there and she'll and her cousin

1572
01:24:17,590 --> 01:24:14,730
disappeared down into the woods

1573
01:24:20,300 --> 01:24:17,600
that was when shell saw the 30 foot

1574
01:24:24,860 --> 01:24:20,310
sasquatch the one that spoke for the

1575
01:24:27,590 --> 01:24:24,870
leader and we're back up by the car and

1576
01:24:30,110 --> 01:24:27,600
just chitchat and I see movement

1577
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:30,120
peripherally I train my eyes and I see

1578
01:24:39,440 --> 01:24:36,050
something bipedal kind of kind of oh

1579
01:24:43,190 --> 01:24:39,450
what's the word I'm looking for

1580
01:24:46,130 --> 01:24:43,200
moves real quick and then stop and then

1581
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:46,140
mover quick and then stop they're like

1582
01:24:51,110 --> 01:24:48,930
guys I'm seeing something right down

1583
01:24:52,820 --> 01:24:51,120
here that I'm describing this doing in

1584
01:24:54,350 --> 01:24:52,830
Rick says oh yeah that's a juvenile

1585
01:24:57,890 --> 01:24:54,360
they're very curious and that's how they

1586
01:24:58,750 --> 01:24:57,900
move and it might have been five or six

1587
01:25:01,400 --> 01:24:58,760
foot tall

1588
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:01,410
hey night with Mike just like I'm on

1589
01:25:08,220 --> 01:25:04,290
your eyes right now I'm looking at this

1590
01:25:10,970 --> 01:25:08,230
thing and all of a sudden it's gone

1591
01:25:16,410 --> 01:25:10,980
it didn't lay down it didn't back up

1592
01:25:19,860 --> 01:25:16,420
didn't go left or right just golf and it

1593
01:25:21,590 --> 01:25:19,870
either cloaked or wet dimensional so I'm

1594
01:25:24,630 --> 01:25:21,600
here to tell you I witnessed this

1595
01:25:28,860 --> 01:25:24,640
this isn't anecdotal I freaking seen

1596
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:28,870
this and that's what they'll do they'll

1597
01:25:32,970 --> 01:25:30,850
cloak themselves and they will toy with

1598
01:25:34,710 --> 01:25:32,980
you they'll get up in the darker course

1599
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:34,720
where you can't see anything go get up

1600
01:25:42,810 --> 01:25:40,690
right next year good distance is there

1601
01:25:44,790 --> 01:25:42,820
suggesting that I guess they can pop in

1602
01:25:46,380 --> 01:25:44,800
and out no matter where they're at

1603
01:25:48,450 --> 01:25:46,390
it doesn't necessarily always just have

1604
01:25:53,060 --> 01:25:48,460
to be the woods but I'm sure there would

1605
01:25:57,030 --> 01:25:53,070
feel more confident not being so yeah

1606
01:25:59,490 --> 01:25:57,040
all through Chicago City Chicago and

1607
01:26:04,520 --> 01:25:59,500
they'll go travel at night when they're

1608
01:26:07,470 --> 01:26:04,530
less likely to be seen but they'll build

1609
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:07,480
you know the the big trash dumps that

1610
01:26:13,530 --> 01:26:10,090
the restaurants have built race dumped I

1611
01:26:17,550 --> 01:26:13,540
don't find food and those anywhere they

1612
01:26:24,330 --> 01:26:17,560
can find to the forage so yeah they're

1613
01:26:27,470 --> 01:26:24,340
they're very human-like but you don't

1614
01:26:31,650 --> 01:26:27,480
want to cross them yeah that's for sure

1615
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:31,660
well so - I guess tie indeed the third

1616
01:26:39,180 --> 01:26:36,850
and last segment here regarding 80s UFOs

1617
01:26:41,730 --> 01:26:39,190
and whatever other aspects of that

1618
01:26:45,180 --> 01:26:41,740
phenomena you want to cover what do you

1619
01:26:46,830 --> 01:26:45,190
think they might've meant with you know

1620
01:26:49,500 --> 01:26:46,840
with there's something coming are they

1621
01:26:52,740 --> 01:26:49,510
more referring to something et related

1622
01:27:00,920 --> 01:26:52,750
or just something different I guess

1623
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:00,930
they'll affect the planet because my

1624
01:27:06,440 --> 01:27:04,330
working theory I you know I've been

1625
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:06,450
studying these stuff a long time and

1626
01:27:13,260 --> 01:27:10,930
years ago I came across a magazine I

1627
01:27:16,350 --> 01:27:13,270
don't remember the name of it but it

1628
01:27:19,290 --> 01:27:16,360
talked about Earth and its travel

1629
01:27:21,270 --> 01:27:19,300
through space and our Sun I didn't know

1630
01:27:25,380 --> 01:27:21,280
through most of my life that our son was

1631
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:25,390
moving through space so in effect we are

1632
01:27:33,990 --> 01:27:28,210
never in the same place in space at any

1633
01:27:37,620 --> 01:27:34,000
one time we've got that you know 250,000

1634
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:37,630
year run that we're doing around our

1635
01:27:45,930 --> 01:27:43,330
central Sun and we are approaching or we

1636
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:45,940
may even be in male I don't know what's

1637
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:51,010
called the null zone okay there are I

1638
01:27:56,460 --> 01:27:54,010
wish I could do a visual on this well I

1639
01:28:00,330 --> 01:27:56,470
kind of sort of am if you if you look at

1640
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:00,340
my head and say that my my head

1641
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:03,610
represents the majority of the travel of

1642
01:28:11,190 --> 01:28:08,050
space of the going around okay when we

1643
01:28:14,580 --> 01:28:11,200
reach a point where we've got this place

1644
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:14,590
in space where the the dark area on the

1645
01:28:21,660 --> 01:28:17,170
wall back there is that's what's called

1646
01:28:24,030 --> 01:28:21,670
a null zone or a zone of white when we

1647
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:24,040
enter that the entire planet and the

1648
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:26,290
entire solar system for that collector

1649
01:28:34,050 --> 01:28:30,210
back is bathed in a different energy

1650
01:28:35,820 --> 01:28:34,060
that I think is where depending on where

1651
01:28:40,530 --> 01:28:35,830
your consciousness is is where you're

1652
01:28:42,750 --> 01:28:40,540
going to elevate move into instead of

1653
01:28:46,110 --> 01:28:42,760
elevate necessarily but move into fourth

1654
01:28:48,300 --> 01:28:46,120
and fifth dimensional thinking processes

1655
01:28:51,810 --> 01:28:48,310
where some people claim that we're

1656
01:28:53,730 --> 01:28:51,820
already there okay whether we are you

1657
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:53,740
know maybe we've entered enough of the

1658
01:29:02,190 --> 01:28:55,930
null zone for some of us to already be

1659
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:02,200
there and I it's logical sense that the

1660
01:29:08,310 --> 01:29:04,330
beings and consciousness is out there

1661
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:08,320
that I refer to as dark who do not want

1662
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:11,530
to see this evolve because they feed on

1663
01:29:16,980 --> 01:29:13,930
our energy as we are third dimensional

1664
01:29:21,990 --> 01:29:16,990
beings will do everything in their power

1665
01:29:27,260 --> 01:29:22,000
to keep us from achieving that and I

1666
01:29:30,380 --> 01:29:27,270
think the sasquatch know about this so

1667
01:29:33,770 --> 01:29:30,390
in an effort to help those of us who are

1668
01:29:36,860 --> 01:29:33,780
ready to make that that move in

1669
01:29:38,990 --> 01:29:36,870
consciousness that limits when the time

1670
01:29:43,100 --> 01:29:39,000
is right they will be there to help us

1671
01:29:45,530 --> 01:29:43,110
do that maybe help ward off the dark

1672
01:29:47,860 --> 01:29:45,540
consciousness whether it be alien or

1673
01:29:51,530 --> 01:29:47,870
lower energy beings or whatever it is I

1674
01:29:53,540 --> 01:29:51,540
do believe that they have our for those

1675
01:29:56,060 --> 01:29:53,550
who care have our best intention at

1676
01:29:58,430 --> 01:29:56,070
heart and that's why we want to pay

1677
01:30:01,940 --> 01:29:58,440
respect and they are not the only beings

1678
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:01,950
out there we're gonna be seeing and

1679
01:30:08,390 --> 01:30:05,010
witnessing more and more what we call

1680
01:30:09,950 --> 01:30:08,400
paranormal beings happened we're going

1681
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:09,960
to see more and more communication with

1682
01:30:17,090 --> 01:30:13,770
the spirit realm from your perspective

1683
01:30:19,490 --> 01:30:17,100
then is all these supernatural things I

1684
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:19,500
mean everything in include included

1685
01:30:26,990 --> 01:30:23,130
basically here for su I guess described

1686
01:30:30,860 --> 01:30:27,000
for our shift then for our consciousness

1687
01:30:35,510 --> 01:30:30,870
shift so in other words it's kind of

1688
01:30:37,610 --> 01:30:35,520
like a a a prequel in a melding of these

1689
01:30:39,980 --> 01:30:37,620
different dimensions and we're starting

1690
01:30:42,260 --> 01:30:39,990
to start getting glimpses of of

1691
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:42,270
different things that are I guess in

1692
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:44,010
some sense have always been here but

1693
01:30:49,130 --> 01:30:46,770
with us changing our perception and

1694
01:30:50,900 --> 01:30:49,140
perspective I guess we would we would be

1695
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:50,910
becoming more aware of that would you

1696
01:30:56,990 --> 01:30:54,690
say that I would say that yes I would

1697
01:30:59,120 --> 01:30:57,000
say that I would say that if it's it's

1698
01:31:01,880 --> 01:30:59,130
unfortunate that has taken this long for

1699
01:31:05,330 --> 01:31:01,890
us to get here because there could have

1700
01:31:09,020 --> 01:31:05,340
been a lot of a lot of death prevented

1701
01:31:10,910 --> 01:31:09,030
in the Salem witch trials you know when

1702
01:31:14,210 --> 01:31:10,920
when we were in the Dark Ages and we

1703
01:31:17,230 --> 01:31:14,220
believed that anything out of our norm

1704
01:31:21,170 --> 01:31:17,240
or what the church called norm was

1705
01:31:25,250 --> 01:31:21,180
witchcraft was dark was the devil well

1706
01:31:27,440 --> 01:31:25,260
you got to kill the devil from a

1707
01:31:29,750 --> 01:31:27,450
metaphysical standpoint and I think even

1708
01:31:32,750 --> 01:31:29,760
from a scientific standpoint we can all

1709
01:31:35,060 --> 01:31:32,760
agree that if it exists it's here for a

1710
01:31:37,730 --> 01:31:35,070
reason now back to us

1711
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:37,740
we have to participate in it you know

1712
01:31:42,410 --> 01:31:40,650
and that's a debate that I have with

1713
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:42,420
some friends of mine about light and

1714
01:31:48,740 --> 01:31:45,210
dark well but you have to embrace the

1715
01:31:52,460 --> 01:31:48,750
dark side of you it's like you have to

1716
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:52,470
acknowledge the dark side of you and in

1717
01:31:58,750 --> 01:31:54,690
my opinion work to overcome the dark

1718
01:32:01,850 --> 01:31:58,760
side of you but the term embrace to me

1719
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:01,860
means well I'm going to embrace it and

1720
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:07,730
love it I can't don't go don't go dark

1721
01:32:13,250 --> 01:32:10,410
I'm not you know and I've been very

1722
01:32:17,060 --> 01:32:13,260
fortunate in my life at the time I grew

1723
01:32:19,460 --> 01:32:17,070
up late 60s early seventies and that was

1724
01:32:23,890 --> 01:32:19,470
a time of a lot of experimentation a lot

1725
01:32:28,910 --> 01:32:23,900
of drugs a lot of cult activity a lot of

1726
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:28,920
bad juju and I was very lucky with all

1727
01:32:33,980 --> 01:32:31,650
the people that I have met in my life is

1728
01:32:37,310 --> 01:32:33,990
almost like I had some some guiding

1729
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:37,320
force making sure that I got involved in

1730
01:32:43,460 --> 01:32:41,970
like-minded people I think this is a

1731
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:43,470
kind of a fun Side Story

1732
01:32:51,950 --> 01:32:49,410
I think my dad was taken out by whatever

1733
01:32:54,740 --> 01:32:51,960
forces that knew that I have a greater

1734
01:32:56,570 --> 01:32:54,750
purpose in life I don't want to say that

1735
01:32:59,870 --> 01:32:56,580
use necessarily of the dark but he was

1736
01:33:02,480 --> 01:32:59,880
probably a narcissist before anybody

1737
01:33:06,350 --> 01:33:02,490
really knew what narcissism was and it

1738
01:33:12,670 --> 01:33:06,360
wasn't until he died that my mother told

1739
01:33:19,780 --> 01:33:16,130
and I just I know in my heart of hearts

1740
01:33:22,790 --> 01:33:19,790
that had he lived I was 12 when he died

1741
01:33:26,870 --> 01:33:22,800
had he going on and lived and I had gone

1742
01:33:29,660 --> 01:33:26,880
on and grown up and I witnessed him

1743
01:33:32,780 --> 01:33:29,670
trying to hurt my mother it would have

1744
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:32,790
been bad news cuz I was stuck between

1745
01:33:43,209 --> 01:33:37,650
them and I said and if he wanted to

1746
01:33:47,770 --> 01:33:43,219
fight ok Katie bar the door

1747
01:33:48,900 --> 01:33:47,780
so that could be so something I opted to

1748
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:48,910
take him out

1749
01:33:55,450 --> 01:33:53,690
you're writing it right so John I'm

1750
01:34:00,310 --> 01:33:55,460
sorry I don't mean to change the subject

1751
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:00,320
so could you then I guess cover some of

1752
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:03,530
the examples and experiences actually

1753
01:34:08,380 --> 01:34:06,890
more and more so of what you found if

1754
01:34:11,050 --> 01:34:08,390
you can go a little bit of into the

1755
01:34:13,420 --> 01:34:11,060
experiences themselves but mainly what

1756
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:13,430
what you found kind of like a list that

1757
01:34:19,470 --> 01:34:16,010
you gave me with with Bigfoot regarding

1758
01:34:22,689 --> 01:34:19,480
a UFOs aliens and all that in general

1759
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:22,699
like what is what is your take on all

1760
01:34:26,020 --> 01:34:24,410
this because obviously we're talking

1761
01:34:28,959 --> 01:34:26,030
about this because we're all assuming

1762
01:34:31,959 --> 01:34:28,969
here and those interested it we are

1763
01:34:37,420 --> 01:34:31,969
being visited they play some kind of

1764
01:34:40,330 --> 01:34:37,430
role but what is it that you found what

1765
01:34:42,220 --> 01:34:40,340
I have found and where I formed my

1766
01:34:44,740 --> 01:34:42,230
opinions on right now and it's all

1767
01:34:46,930 --> 01:34:44,750
opinion if I said in the early part

1768
01:34:50,860 --> 01:34:46,940
nobody knows everything and we hardly

1769
01:34:55,270 --> 01:34:50,870
know anything honestly we have gone from

1770
01:35:00,070 --> 01:34:55,280
a couple of civilian groups in the late

1771
01:35:06,820 --> 01:35:00,080
50s and 60s and the timeline that we've

1772
01:35:10,810 --> 01:35:06,830
got with the apology lights craft some

1773
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:10,820
beings okay no it takes us like 10 years

1774
01:35:17,729 --> 01:35:15,650
to absorb that and starting with my

1775
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:17,739
first sighting when I was 3 years old of

1776
01:35:24,610 --> 01:35:22,730
a craft that was landed just down to the

1777
01:35:27,970 --> 01:35:24,620
side of the building that we lived in

1778
01:35:32,380 --> 01:35:27,980
that silently rose up and then took off

1779
01:35:38,199 --> 01:35:32,390
near to all of the encounters that I've

1780
01:35:43,279 --> 01:35:38,209
had where

1781
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:43,289
fifteen 20 years behind the times okay

1782
01:35:51,060 --> 01:35:46,410
it's more than

1783
01:35:52,410 --> 01:35:51,070
extraterrestrial or alien craft maybe

1784
01:35:53,730 --> 01:35:52,420
there was probably Italian back in the

1785
01:36:00,210 --> 01:35:53,740
eighteen hundreds when that was all it

1786
01:36:03,870 --> 01:36:00,220
was but as we as a population begin to

1787
01:36:09,260 --> 01:36:03,880
absorb more revealed detailed

1788
01:36:11,870 --> 01:36:09,270
information we discovered that besides

1789
01:36:16,290 --> 01:36:11,880
only being alien or extraterrestrial

1790
01:36:18,660 --> 01:36:16,300
that some of them are from back

1791
01:36:21,570 --> 01:36:18,670
engineered alien craft and they're our

1792
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:21,580
craft that's what the speculation is

1793
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:25,210
with the triangular craft if you have

1794
01:36:31,410 --> 01:36:29,770
kept up with the concept that the

1795
01:36:33,690 --> 01:36:31,420
reptilians got involved with Adolf

1796
01:36:37,950 --> 01:36:33,700
Hitler and the Nazis and they actually

1797
01:36:42,450 --> 01:36:37,960
had quote alien craft flying saucers of

1798
01:36:44,970 --> 01:36:42,460
sort even before the World War they got

1799
01:36:46,830 --> 01:36:44,980
involved with and that they took

1800
01:36:51,630 --> 01:36:46,840
everything and started building under

1801
01:36:52,830 --> 01:36:51,640
Antarctica and that they have some sort

1802
01:36:58,340 --> 01:36:52,840
of allegiance with their reptilian

1803
01:37:02,000 --> 01:36:58,350
creatures we're in a very expansive time

1804
01:37:06,330 --> 01:37:02,010
with what we're discovering in ufology

1805
01:37:08,580 --> 01:37:06,340
we have aliens that I reported all over

1806
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:08,590
the planet but the most important thing

1807
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:11,410
I can say about this is you can't just

1808
01:37:17,820 --> 01:37:15,370
say what do the aliens want or where are

1809
01:37:20,580 --> 01:37:17,830
the aliens from you have to remember

1810
01:37:23,430 --> 01:37:20,590
there's an S appeal in that word when

1811
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:23,440
you say what do they want well which one

1812
01:37:29,430 --> 01:37:26,770
are you talking about degrees are you

1813
01:37:31,020 --> 01:37:29,440
talking about the zero Reticulans are

1814
01:37:34,110 --> 01:37:31,030
you talking about the reptilians are you

1815
01:37:39,180 --> 01:37:34,120
talking about the Draco are you talking

1816
01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:39,190
about the mantas or the Nordics Victor

1817
01:37:49,050 --> 01:37:44,800
alien and then even that you know it's

1818
01:37:55,650 --> 01:37:49,060
it's it's going to be a huge challenge

1819
01:37:57,480 --> 01:37:55,660
for us who only think locally I can't

1820
01:38:00,210 --> 01:37:57,490
tell you much about for example the

1821
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:00,220
state of Montana or the state of Florida

1822
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:02,770
or any other state in this country that

1823
01:38:08,730 --> 01:38:06,370
I'm in because my experience is here in

1824
01:38:11,630 --> 01:38:08,740
Missouri and some in Illinois but that's

1825
01:38:16,020 --> 01:38:11,640
that's my experience and knowledge base

1826
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:16,030
so we are being positioned because of

1827
01:38:19,020 --> 01:38:17,890
you ecology this is what I love about

1828
01:38:21,780 --> 01:38:19,030
you ecology

1829
01:38:23,540 --> 01:38:21,790
if you're going to get into ufology if

1830
01:38:26,430 --> 01:38:23,550
you're going to talk about aliens

1831
01:38:30,180 --> 01:38:26,440
you were talking there psychology

1832
01:38:32,940 --> 01:38:30,190
there's sociology what makes them tick

1833
01:38:36,810 --> 01:38:32,950
what what is their government structure

1834
01:38:40,470 --> 01:38:36,820
so you bring the governmental concepts

1835
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:40,480
in do they have any medical what do we

1836
01:38:45,990 --> 01:38:42,970
do with the abductees they have implants

1837
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:46,000
and okay we got to know about human

1838
01:38:49,950 --> 01:38:48,370
anatomy which in fact the implants the

1839
01:38:52,650 --> 01:38:49,960
research on implants are helping us

1840
01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:52,660
understand more and more about the human

1841
01:38:59,520 --> 01:38:56,730
anatomy it will take you into

1842
01:39:02,400 --> 01:38:59,530
[Music]

1843
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:02,410
knowledge of your life and world that

1844
01:39:06,030 --> 01:39:04,090
you know when you were in high school

1845
01:39:08,010 --> 01:39:06,040
you deflate about when you were in high

1846
01:39:10,110 --> 01:39:08,020
school and partying have a good time

1847
01:39:11,850 --> 01:39:10,120
unless you want to go to college then

1848
01:39:12,870 --> 01:39:11,860
you did all your study to get the good

1849
01:39:15,570 --> 01:39:12,880
grades and blah blah

1850
01:39:17,330 --> 01:39:15,580
this blows college out of the freaking

1851
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:17,340
water

1852
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:20,250
okay you have to be open-minded and

1853
01:39:30,730 --> 01:39:25,410
ready to absorb knowledge seriously deep

1854
01:39:33,610 --> 01:39:30,740
knowledge researcher grant Cameron who

1855
01:39:36,650 --> 01:39:33,620
first came to light is being a

1856
01:39:42,140 --> 01:39:36,660
researcher of what all the US presidents

1857
01:39:44,270 --> 01:39:42,150
knew or know about UFOs and aliens the

1858
01:39:49,060 --> 01:39:44,280
last time I heard him talk we had him on

1859
01:39:51,350 --> 01:39:49,070
skype at one of our MUFON meetings

1860
01:39:54,740 --> 01:39:51,360
Derby's iggle my are Missouri State

1861
01:39:57,650 --> 01:39:54,750
Director for me fun and where he left

1862
01:40:02,060 --> 01:39:57,660
off his talk to us was that if you truly

1863
01:40:02,650 --> 01:40:02,070
want to understand about UFOs and about

1864
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:02,660
aliens

1865
01:40:11,810 --> 01:40:06,690
you must learn about consciousness talk

1866
01:40:15,370 --> 01:40:11,820
to your abductees and that's where it

1867
01:40:17,420 --> 01:40:15,380
all leads that's what it's all about as

1868
01:40:24,410 --> 01:40:17,430
you and I have had many discussions

1869
01:40:28,180 --> 01:40:24,420
about so yeah all of my experiences and

1870
01:40:31,100 --> 01:40:28,190
all my interviews and all my research

1871
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:31,110
passwords taking and there's so much of

1872
01:40:37,850 --> 01:40:33,930
the population that doesn't even know

1873
01:40:42,770 --> 01:40:37,860
what a UFO is we have a long way to go

1874
01:40:46,690 --> 01:40:42,780
and this is why I'm very thankful and

1875
01:40:50,510 --> 01:40:48,890
because without programs like yours

1876
01:40:53,090 --> 01:40:50,520
hopefully the programs I get to produce

1877
01:40:58,640 --> 01:40:53,100
as well the more people that see your

1878
01:41:00,530 --> 01:40:58,650
programs my programs there's there's got

1879
01:41:03,050 --> 01:41:00,540
to be an overall human consciousness

1880
01:41:06,580 --> 01:41:03,060
growth thank you Jeff I shade that I

1881
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:06,590
mean it it all almost seems like it's

1882
01:41:12,500 --> 01:41:09,810
without all of us understanding what

1883
01:41:16,270 --> 01:41:12,510
exactly we're doing this for one thing

1884
01:41:19,940 --> 01:41:16,280
is for certain those that are the most

1885
01:41:21,950 --> 01:41:19,950
interested the most I guess driven to

1886
01:41:24,350 --> 01:41:21,960
understand the subject always end up

1887
01:41:26,480 --> 01:41:24,360
doing something related to what you do

1888
01:41:29,660 --> 01:41:26,490
what I do and others or they write a

1889
01:41:30,570 --> 01:41:29,670
book about or something that takes that

1890
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:30,580
information

1891
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:33,610
makes it public it's almost as - I guess

1892
01:41:39,210 --> 01:41:37,090
create some kind of base library of

1893
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:39,220
what's going on so that there's

1894
01:41:44,130 --> 01:41:41,170
information available if and when

1895
01:41:46,410 --> 01:41:44,140
something happens they can revert to

1896
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:46,420
that information so that they're not as

1897
01:41:50,970 --> 01:41:48,850
confused or you know to say because

1898
01:41:54,270 --> 01:41:50,980
sometimes it's so weird you know even if

1899
01:41:56,190 --> 01:41:54,280
let's say I don't know even if you go

1900
01:41:57,180 --> 01:41:56,200
into the most difficult thing just

1901
01:41:59,370 --> 01:41:57,190
knowing that there's some information

1902
01:42:00,330 --> 01:41:59,380
that somebody could just relay their

1903
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:00,340
story to you

1904
01:42:06,570 --> 01:42:03,850
almost alleviates the fear you know and

1905
01:42:08,790 --> 01:42:06,580
yeah and it's just just so that you can

1906
01:42:10,860 --> 01:42:08,800
say I can I can there's someone out

1907
01:42:14,700 --> 01:42:10,870
there they can relate to me or they

1908
01:42:16,770 --> 01:42:14,710
understand and it's not a you know thing

1909
01:42:18,900 --> 01:42:16,780
that only they are going through which

1910
01:42:20,820 --> 01:42:18,910
kind of sucks for the rest of us because

1911
01:42:22,860 --> 01:42:20,830
we all have been going through this

1912
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:22,870
before anyone else understood what's

1913
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:25,690
going on you know and only what in the

1914
01:42:32,130 --> 01:42:29,370
last 50 years or so enough information

1915
01:42:34,890 --> 01:42:32,140
has been coming out and involving

1916
01:42:37,500 --> 01:42:34,900
because it doesn't just stop at lights

1917
01:42:41,070 --> 01:42:37,510
in the sky flying real fast you know it

1918
01:42:43,650 --> 01:42:41,080
went you know it evolved not because of

1919
01:42:44,790 --> 01:42:43,660
a while world board so let's just make

1920
01:42:47,870 --> 01:42:44,800
up some kind of story

1921
01:42:51,330 --> 01:42:47,880
no because information and and and

1922
01:42:54,630 --> 01:42:51,340
witness stories and experiences have

1923
01:42:57,810 --> 01:42:54,640
happened to where now it elaborates on

1924
01:43:02,130 --> 01:42:57,820
those fast flying lights in the sky you

1925
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:02,140
know and yeah and to us it's it's I mean

1926
01:43:07,530 --> 01:43:05,170
sometimes say I like to just kind of sit

1927
01:43:09,480 --> 01:43:07,540
back and observe my quote-unquote normal

1928
01:43:11,190 --> 01:43:09,490
friends as when we have a conversation

1929
01:43:15,450 --> 01:43:11,200
and there's no judgment there I just

1930
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:15,460
like to see what when I talk about

1931
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:18,250
things matter if actually and start to

1932
01:43:23,490 --> 01:43:21,610
talk about you know to people that

1933
01:43:27,270 --> 01:43:23,500
they're just all they know is just a

1934
01:43:29,610 --> 01:43:27,280
day-to-day normal things and so to to go

1935
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:29,620
into in-depth stories of well I was

1936
01:43:33,510 --> 01:43:31,570
conveyed this and I was told that well

1937
01:43:35,790 --> 01:43:33,520
there's these races there's no races

1938
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:35,800
they just did it's almost like they

1939
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:37,330
don't know where to start you know it's

1940
01:43:42,900 --> 01:43:39,730
like you know the computer froze up and

1941
01:43:44,129 --> 01:43:42,910
can't compute you know that's their look

1942
01:43:45,779 --> 01:43:44,139
in the faceless

1943
01:43:48,659 --> 01:43:45,789
you know and but the point is to not

1944
01:43:50,310 --> 01:43:48,669
have any judgement to just keep talking

1945
01:43:52,859 --> 01:43:50,320
about this and just can't become that

1946
01:43:56,129 --> 01:43:52,869
crazy person you know because when

1947
01:43:58,589 --> 01:43:56,139
something happens they would know oh I

1948
01:44:01,589 --> 01:43:58,599
know someone who I can go talk to you

1949
01:44:03,509 --> 01:44:01,599
know and and the best thing we can do is

1950
01:44:05,429 --> 01:44:03,519
just kind of make our presence known you

1951
01:44:08,339 --> 01:44:05,439
know no matter how difficult the

1952
01:44:10,979 --> 01:44:08,349
challenging in an angry being full of

1953
01:44:12,659 --> 01:44:10,989
that anger but frustration it is you

1954
01:44:14,580 --> 01:44:12,669
know to have it have to deal with all

1955
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:14,590
kinds of people because I've had people

1956
01:44:20,370 --> 01:44:18,010
just you know I've had this lady once

1957
01:44:22,949 --> 01:44:20,380
and we were talking and I guess she

1958
01:44:24,959 --> 01:44:22,959
somehow she knew I was into UFOs and she

1959
01:44:27,330 --> 01:44:24,969
just came straight to him he said well I

1960
01:44:29,159 --> 01:44:27,340
don't believe in aliens and I was like

1961
01:44:30,569 --> 01:44:29,169
okay you know and I was just kind of

1962
01:44:31,469 --> 01:44:30,579
looking at this so I was like what do

1963
01:44:33,509 --> 01:44:31,479
you have to say about that

1964
01:44:36,149 --> 01:44:33,519
I said well would you believe in then

1965
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:36,159
you know it just happened oh my gosh you

1966
01:44:40,350 --> 01:44:38,050
thought that I was just gonna off the

1967
01:44:42,179 --> 01:44:40,360
sudden be the total opposite angle well

1968
01:44:43,409 --> 01:44:42,189
why not start an argument with her or

1969
01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:43,419
something I think that's what she was

1970
01:44:46,770 --> 01:44:45,130
thinking I said I'm not here to force

1971
01:44:49,199 --> 01:44:46,780
you you know it's like what I have to

1972
01:44:51,330 --> 01:44:49,209
say that's what I have to say you can

1973
01:44:53,639 --> 01:44:51,340
either relate to it or or don't you know

1974
01:44:55,529 --> 01:44:53,649
and that's where I have to leave it you

1975
01:44:57,659 --> 01:44:55,539
know it's like I can you look at all the

1976
01:44:59,520 --> 01:44:57,669
arguments we've all had about you know

1977
01:45:01,799 --> 01:44:59,530
God and I don't really want to get into

1978
01:45:04,229 --> 01:45:01,809
that subject right now you know and but

1979
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:04,239
these are you know although very

1980
01:45:10,669 --> 01:45:06,610
advanced from all the stories told and

1981
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:10,679
and and things witness you know you know

1982
01:45:18,659 --> 01:45:15,610
the you know there's still all that

1983
01:45:20,669 --> 01:45:18,669
mystique about it you know because it's

1984
01:45:22,620 --> 01:45:20,679
almost like like this conversation

1985
01:45:25,589 --> 01:45:22,630
you're not you and I are having you can

1986
01:45:27,540 --> 01:45:25,599
have this conversation and you are sure

1987
01:45:29,250 --> 01:45:27,550
we had it you want you to remember me

1988
01:45:31,350 --> 01:45:29,260
asking you questions hearing me

1989
01:45:35,639 --> 01:45:31,360
everything else and you walk away and

1990
01:45:38,819 --> 01:45:35,649
for some weird reason let's say da you

1991
01:45:41,189 --> 01:45:38,829
my account on your skype is deleted you

1992
01:45:43,919 --> 01:45:41,199
know and any trace of this conversation

1993
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:43,929
is just gone you know a it can drive

1994
01:45:49,620 --> 01:45:47,530
somebody nuts trying to you know convey

1995
01:45:52,770 --> 01:45:49,630
to somebody no I really did have his

1996
01:45:54,449 --> 01:45:52,780
conversation you know I I really did sit

1997
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:54,459
right here and this is where it happened

1998
01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:56,530
you know but people were civil worse to

1999
01:45:59,290 --> 01:45:57,530
prove I'm like

2000
01:46:01,240 --> 01:45:59,300
have it I don't know how it disappeared

2001
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:01,250
and that's I think how most of us are

2002
01:46:04,930 --> 01:46:03,170
dealing with it's like we know what we

2003
01:46:07,750 --> 01:46:04,940
just see what just happened what we just

2004
01:46:09,460 --> 01:46:07,760
experienced and there's certain things

2005
01:46:11,290 --> 01:46:09,470
that were supposed to be our experience

2006
01:46:14,260 --> 01:46:11,300
learn from it

2007
01:46:16,810 --> 01:46:14,270
of course retell the story but we can't

2008
01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:16,820
have that proof yet to where we hold

2009
01:46:21,820 --> 01:46:20,090
that that Grail you know in the hand and

2010
01:46:23,980 --> 01:46:21,830
say well here here's your proof you know

2011
01:46:25,750 --> 01:46:23,990
whatever or picture or video whoa

2012
01:46:27,220 --> 01:46:25,760
and even then people are gonna be like

2013
01:46:29,260 --> 01:46:27,230
what this is fake and this is

2014
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:29,270
photoshopped so you know unless they

2015
01:46:33,460 --> 01:46:31,010
have that personal experience I don't

2016
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:33,470
know what else can be really accepted as

2017
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:35,690
proof to any of the skeptics or anyone

2018
01:46:41,710 --> 01:46:39,050
that that's curious but doesn't want to

2019
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:41,720
you know go full fledge out as a

2020
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:46,370
believer mm-hmm well you did on so many

2021
01:46:52,450 --> 01:46:49,690
things in that I I wanted to say that

2022
01:46:55,660 --> 01:46:52,460
what you're talking about is about

2023
01:46:59,230 --> 01:46:55,670
people wanting to not think there alone

2024
01:47:01,870 --> 01:46:59,240
is probably the primary thing with

2025
01:47:04,620 --> 01:47:01,880
people who come to me with their reports

2026
01:47:07,930 --> 01:47:04,630
I remember so distinctly a couple in

2027
01:47:09,910 --> 01:47:07,940
Saint Charles Missouri that reported to

2028
01:47:14,170 --> 01:47:09,920
me fog and I got assigned the case and I

2029
01:47:17,140 --> 01:47:14,180
contacted them and they had a sighting

2030
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:17,150
of some kind of craft that's not what

2031
01:47:23,530 --> 01:47:20,090
bothered them what bothered them was

2032
01:47:26,650 --> 01:47:23,540
they got home turned the TV on turn the

2033
01:47:29,050 --> 01:47:26,660
radio on bought it you know every news

2034
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:29,060
source possible throughout the night

2035
01:47:35,440 --> 01:47:32,810
think and they're like who we can't be

2036
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:35,450
the only people that saw this oh my god

2037
01:47:39,460 --> 01:47:37,370
how could we there's nothing on the news

2038
01:47:40,930 --> 01:47:39,470
there's nothing nobody's reporting this

2039
01:47:45,790 --> 01:47:40,940
oh are we crazy

2040
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:45,800
I said no of course you're not crazy you

2041
01:47:52,690 --> 01:47:47,930
know you were just you know any number

2042
01:47:54,430 --> 01:47:52,700
of speculations number one you were had

2043
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:54,440
you happen to be looking in the right

2044
01:47:59,950 --> 01:47:55,970
place at the right time that's why you

2045
01:48:03,910 --> 01:47:59,960
saw this number two if there's more

2046
01:48:06,420 --> 01:48:03,920
involved to the sighting word whoever

2047
01:48:09,570 --> 01:48:06,430
was in charge of this craft were they

2048
01:48:12,330 --> 01:48:09,580
tuning in on you

2049
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:12,340
because there's been a number of reports

2050
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:15,010
through the years of people driving down

2051
01:48:19,890 --> 01:48:17,050
through a crowded city street in all

2052
01:48:22,470 --> 01:48:19,900
this and there's this you oppose it

2053
01:48:24,300 --> 01:48:22,480
right there above them you know through

2054
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:24,310
five or six blocks with heavy traffic

2055
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:26,410
and they're looking around and everybody

2056
01:48:30,150 --> 01:48:28,330
else is just you know driving around

2057
01:48:33,660 --> 01:48:30,160
singing in their car or smoking or

2058
01:48:37,410 --> 01:48:33,670
whatever drinking or so it's like don't

2059
01:48:42,540 --> 01:48:37,420
you people see this what I've seen that

2060
01:48:45,810 --> 01:48:42,550
not everybody is aware not everybody is

2061
01:48:49,380 --> 01:48:45,820
ready to accept seeing on something like

2062
01:48:52,500 --> 01:48:49,390
that there's a variety of reasons if

2063
01:48:58,050 --> 01:48:52,510
you've had an experience and I include

2064
01:48:59,790 --> 01:48:58,060
sightings as an experience then there's

2065
01:49:01,440 --> 01:48:59,800
the door you're going to walk through it

2066
01:49:02,100 --> 01:49:01,450
or you're gonna close and pretend it

2067
01:49:04,440 --> 01:49:02,110
didn't happen

2068
01:49:07,410 --> 01:49:04,450
my personality is I cannot pretend it

2069
01:49:09,210 --> 01:49:07,420
didn't happen you know I remember so

2070
01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:09,220
well I was working at Everett Jones and

2071
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:11,890
company financial services company in

2072
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:14,650
the video Department and that year I had

2073
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:18,010
enough money to go to a symposium and I

2074
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:20,770
was all excited and telling our office

2075
01:49:28,980 --> 01:49:22,810
secretary about it and she was an older

2076
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:28,990
lady probably about my age older so I

2077
01:49:34,140 --> 01:49:31,330
was going on and on about it

2078
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:34,150
and she finally burst out laughing her

2079
01:49:43,350 --> 01:49:36,850
name is Maureen she and she looked at me

2080
01:49:47,310 --> 01:49:43,360
laughing she goes who cares aliens who

2081
01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:47,320
cares if there's UFOs I make my paycheck

2082
01:49:52,500 --> 01:49:50,650
I go home I have my loving husband I

2083
01:49:55,950 --> 01:49:52,510
have we have our family dinner I got my

2084
01:50:01,680 --> 01:49:55,960
grandkids that doesn't have any bearing

2085
01:50:07,350 --> 01:50:01,690
on my life I thought hmm I have to

2086
01:50:09,210 --> 01:50:07,360
acknowledge that yeah so in relation to

2087
01:50:11,870 --> 01:50:09,220
what I said earlier it may not have a

2088
01:50:17,670 --> 01:50:11,880
heavy bearing on her life at that point

2089
01:50:19,570 --> 01:50:17,680
but as our consciousness expands it's

2090
01:50:22,390 --> 01:50:19,580
going to

2091
01:50:24,790 --> 01:50:22,400
it's like when you're a baby you don't

2092
01:50:26,740 --> 01:50:24,800
know how to cook your food but at some

2093
01:50:28,390 --> 01:50:26,750
point your taxes can fix it in you're

2094
01:50:32,260 --> 01:50:28,400
big enough you can actually cook your

2095
01:50:34,780 --> 01:50:32,270
own food and feed yourself that's kind

2096
01:50:39,580 --> 01:50:34,790
of what we're talking about you know

2097
01:50:41,950 --> 01:50:39,590
except it's a vast vast greater amount

2098
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:41,960
of knowledge and our consciousness has

2099
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:44,210
to expand in order to be able to take in

2100
01:50:48,100 --> 01:50:46,130
that knowledge I was going to say we're

2101
01:50:49,690 --> 01:50:48,110
talking about sources of information

2102
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:49,700
wouldn't it be fun to know what the

2103
01:50:59,770 --> 01:50:54,410
Vatican's got his faults right regarding

2104
01:51:03,370 --> 01:50:59,780
you know just a quick side note

2105
01:51:06,580 --> 01:51:03,380
something that I had but that has been

2106
01:51:09,940 --> 01:51:06,590
brought up to me by several people it

2107
01:51:12,970 --> 01:51:09,950
was regarding regarding the people I've

2108
01:51:16,390 --> 01:51:12,980
interviewed and something they said kind

2109
01:51:17,980 --> 01:51:16,400
of just got hit home and they said well

2110
01:51:21,190 --> 01:51:17,990
have you mapped out where all their

2111
01:51:22,630 --> 01:51:21,200
sightings happen and I said no it's not

2112
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:22,640
something that's something I generally

2113
01:51:26,650 --> 01:51:24,650
did I mean I follow up on questions and

2114
01:51:29,050 --> 01:51:26,660
things like that and she said I think

2115
01:51:31,270 --> 01:51:29,060
you'll be interested to see what you

2116
01:51:34,900 --> 01:51:31,280
find that all the people you have

2117
01:51:38,350 --> 01:51:34,910
interviewed and kind of put a little pin

2118
01:51:40,330 --> 01:51:38,360
on a map and then next person put a pin

2119
01:51:44,950 --> 01:51:40,340
on a map where their sighting happened

2120
01:51:47,290 --> 01:51:44,960
that something would be there I guess

2121
01:51:49,390 --> 01:51:47,300
that some kind of pattern would would

2122
01:51:51,100 --> 01:51:49,400
emerge that would I guess that I would

2123
01:51:52,690 --> 01:51:51,110
find interesting I have not done that

2124
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:52,700
yeah but there was something I was told

2125
01:51:58,720 --> 01:51:55,370
and so I have so many things going on

2126
01:52:01,180 --> 01:51:58,730
right now in my life and so you know I'm

2127
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:01,190
sure I'm sure one of these days I'll do

2128
01:52:03,730 --> 01:52:01,610
that

2129
01:52:06,610 --> 01:52:03,740
you know because right now the the thing

2130
01:52:10,330 --> 01:52:06,620
is that it's especially given were the

2131
01:52:13,300 --> 01:52:10,340
field of ufology is and generally what

2132
01:52:15,580 --> 01:52:13,310
the energy that I feel you know with

2133
01:52:18,190 --> 01:52:15,590
what's happening there's it's not that

2134
01:52:21,010 --> 01:52:18,200
urgent yet but I feel like within the

2135
01:52:23,260 --> 01:52:21,020
next seven six seven years you know it

2136
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:23,270
would it would be more urgent you know

2137
01:52:28,300 --> 01:52:25,370
that we're still kind of in this still

2138
01:52:31,330 --> 01:52:28,310
in this gap of information age regarding

2139
01:52:33,390 --> 01:52:31,340
this and that sooner or later you know I

2140
01:52:34,980 --> 01:52:33,400
wouldn't be surprised if even

2141
01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:34,990
certain parts of government start

2142
01:52:39,180 --> 01:52:37,690
calling in some of the experiences and

2143
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:39,190
just like okay tell us what do you know

2144
01:52:43,440 --> 01:52:41,290
because now it's getting to the point to

2145
01:52:47,490 --> 01:52:43,450
where we need to look at this and this

2146
01:52:50,820 --> 01:52:47,500
oh they're right I mean no I meant I

2147
01:52:53,100 --> 01:52:50,830
meant I'm not right that's why I meant I

2148
01:52:55,500 --> 01:52:53,110
meant blatantly to where there would be

2149
01:52:58,950 --> 01:52:55,510
something that they would even go as far

2150
01:53:00,600 --> 01:52:58,960
as publicly acknowledge it and say we

2151
01:53:02,490 --> 01:53:00,610
need more information you need more

2152
01:53:04,230 --> 01:53:02,500
looking into it now most of us have been

2153
01:53:07,170 --> 01:53:04,240
into this know they've been into this

2154
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:07,180
since you know way before the 40s if not

2155
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:10,290
soon you know earlier but you know

2156
01:53:17,130 --> 01:53:13,930
that's that's something that I feel is a

2157
01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:17,140
potential I guess potential

2158
01:53:22,890 --> 01:53:19,690
quote-unquote official world disclosure

2159
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:22,900
you know to were I guess for some reason

2160
01:53:27,180 --> 01:53:24,970
people always so hold that government as

2161
01:53:29,310 --> 01:53:27,190
the barometer of how where we're at

2162
01:53:31,350 --> 01:53:29,320
where we stand and it's almost as if if

2163
01:53:33,060 --> 01:53:31,360
the government doesn't acknowledge it we

2164
01:53:35,850 --> 01:53:33,070
don't have to acknowledge it you know

2165
01:53:38,100 --> 01:53:35,860
the second that changes you know the

2166
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:38,110
second government gives you a hint then

2167
01:53:43,290 --> 01:53:40,810
everyone else will be so to say almost

2168
01:53:46,170 --> 01:53:43,300
on their toes and say okay what's what's

2169
01:53:48,990 --> 01:53:46,180
up with this you know do you mean you

2170
01:53:50,910 --> 01:53:49,000
know movies there's something to the

2171
01:53:52,730 --> 01:53:50,920
movies they've been showing us you know

2172
01:53:55,650 --> 01:53:52,740
and things like that

2173
01:53:59,010 --> 01:53:55,660
well there's a regarding that particular

2174
01:54:01,890 --> 01:53:59,020
item there's right now there's a a hot

2175
01:54:06,990 --> 01:54:01,900
topic with YouTube talking about the

2176
01:54:09,480 --> 01:54:07,000
parallels of the planet serpo exchange

2177
01:54:10,670 --> 01:54:09,490
program and Close Encounters of the

2178
01:54:19,620 --> 01:54:10,680
Third Kind

2179
01:54:20,970 --> 01:54:19,630
and I I'd heard it years ago when Close

2180
01:54:24,330 --> 01:54:20,980
Encounters of the Third Kind

2181
01:54:28,260 --> 01:54:24,340
premiered there was a special showing at

2182
01:54:29,850 --> 01:54:28,270
the White House and allegedly Ronald

2183
01:54:33,270 --> 01:54:29,860
Reagan was supposed to have leaned over

2184
01:54:38,030 --> 01:54:33,280
to Steven Spielberg the director and

2185
01:54:39,780 --> 01:54:38,040
said if they only knew how real this is

2186
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:39,790
if they only knew

2187
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:43,690
I personally don't ever see disclosure

2188
01:54:51,660 --> 01:54:46,810
all that nature happen

2189
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:51,670
um only because once you make the public

2190
01:54:58,260 --> 01:54:53,890
or work once you become aware of

2191
01:55:00,020 --> 01:54:58,270
something you have the ability to fend

2192
01:55:03,620 --> 01:55:00,030
off

2193
01:55:07,299 --> 01:55:03,630
your choice so it's you know and as long

2194
01:55:10,729 --> 01:55:07,309
as they can keep doubts in people's mind

2195
01:55:15,410 --> 01:55:10,739
they can make people feel they're afraid

2196
01:55:23,180 --> 01:55:15,420
number one which paralyzes you

2197
01:55:25,790 --> 01:55:23,190
or disbelieving and unable to use their

2198
01:55:30,140 --> 01:55:25,800
own power and I'm talking spiritual

2199
01:55:32,959 --> 01:55:30,150
power to fend off any aliens oh I'm

2200
01:55:34,810 --> 01:55:32,969
sorry to interrupt Joe uh si just a tie

2201
01:55:36,860 --> 01:55:34,820
in early what you said about

2202
01:55:39,459 --> 01:55:36,870
consciousness and some of those women

2203
01:55:41,870 --> 01:55:39,469
that didn't know I'm very much into

2204
01:55:47,570 --> 01:55:41,880
understanding this conscious shift of

2205
01:55:51,430 --> 01:55:47,580
contact and consciousness and government

2206
01:55:54,500 --> 01:55:51,440
you know one thing that I learned was

2207
01:55:59,240 --> 01:55:54,510
that that was conveyed to me is that the

2208
01:56:01,910 --> 01:55:59,250
government is a creation of our of us

2209
01:56:05,390 --> 01:56:01,920
you know and I've often said this and

2210
01:56:08,689 --> 01:56:05,400
then one of my other videos you know we

2211
01:56:10,370 --> 01:56:08,699
have fears so the government said don't

2212
01:56:12,530 --> 01:56:10,380
worry we'll protect you

2213
01:56:15,110 --> 01:56:12,540
you know we we perceive ourselves as

2214
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:15,120
weak so the government said you know I

2215
01:56:20,090 --> 01:56:16,890
will build you and build an army and

2216
01:56:22,700 --> 01:56:20,100
make you strong you know and what I what

2217
01:56:26,470 --> 01:56:22,710
I mean is is that through bio these

2218
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:26,480
emotional collective emotional

2219
01:56:30,979 --> 01:56:29,370
shortcomings we've allowed the

2220
01:56:34,340 --> 01:56:30,989
establishment of such thing as

2221
01:56:38,180 --> 01:56:34,350
government so it's there to really keep

2222
01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:38,190
doing what we say we cannot so of course

2223
01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:40,650
if off the sudden something happens

2224
01:56:44,689 --> 01:56:43,170
that's such drastically different it's

2225
01:56:46,459 --> 01:56:44,699
only natural for the first thing to

2226
01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:46,469
happen is that government step inside in

2227
01:56:49,250 --> 01:56:47,850
an in a don't worry everything's just

2228
01:56:52,990 --> 01:56:49,260
fine nothing to see here

2229
01:56:55,340 --> 01:56:53,000
you know I will protect you you know and

2230
01:56:58,770 --> 01:56:55,350
I'm sorry

2231
01:57:03,270 --> 01:56:58,780
yeah it's just it was just right right

2232
01:57:07,530 --> 01:57:03,280
right and so that's what what what gets

2233
01:57:11,669 --> 01:57:07,540
me is that the government you know it's

2234
01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:11,679
almost like we talk about it as if it's

2235
01:57:15,930 --> 01:57:14,170
this thing on its own but it's basically

2236
01:57:19,050 --> 01:57:15,940
a collection of people that then

2237
01:57:21,479 --> 01:57:19,060
resonate based on our shortcomings you

2238
01:57:24,930 --> 01:57:21,489
know so people you know will go and work

2239
01:57:27,419 --> 01:57:24,940
be you know anywhere anywhere from clerk

2240
01:57:30,570 --> 01:57:27,429
to all the way up to soldier you know

2241
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:30,580
and presidents and and all these people

2242
01:57:36,090 --> 01:57:33,730
that generally are attracted to be quote

2243
01:57:38,700 --> 01:57:36,100
unquote public servants are all people

2244
01:57:42,930 --> 01:57:38,710
that will you know always act in such

2245
01:57:45,419 --> 01:57:42,940
ways to where they would I guess what's

2246
01:57:47,550 --> 01:57:45,429
your call it to try to make us you know

2247
01:57:49,919 --> 01:57:47,560
feel safe even though if they're you

2248
01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:49,929
know even though they're lies you know

2249
01:57:55,919 --> 01:57:53,290
and so by recognizing that I can't

2250
01:57:57,479 --> 01:57:55,929
almost like I have to stop constantly

2251
01:57:59,729 --> 01:57:57,489
pointing outwards and blaming the

2252
01:58:02,220 --> 01:57:59,739
government I just have to say you know

2253
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:02,230
what it is that I'm not doing to tell

2254
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:04,090
the government it's okay for you to tell

2255
01:58:08,939 --> 01:58:06,370
me the truth you know and not just me as

2256
01:58:11,399 --> 01:58:08,949
an individual but let's say for an

2257
01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:11,409
example in America for have what was it

2258
01:58:17,370 --> 01:58:14,530
350 million people that live here for

2259
01:58:20,220 --> 01:58:17,380
everyone to say hey you can tell me now

2260
01:58:22,470 --> 01:58:20,230
I'm not afraid to know you know it's

2261
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:22,480
okay for you to tell me and and don't

2262
01:58:25,919 --> 01:58:23,770
worry I will not

2263
01:58:27,930 --> 01:58:25,929
you know punish you in return because I

2264
01:58:31,169 --> 01:58:27,940
understand you did this for my

2265
01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:31,179
protection for me feeling safe you know

2266
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:36,250
and um and I can't like I can't expect

2267
01:58:40,590 --> 01:58:37,570
people believe that point of view

2268
01:58:43,100 --> 01:58:40,600
because it's only happened to me after

2269
01:58:45,570 --> 01:58:43,110
I've had my own experiences and

2270
01:58:47,820 --> 01:58:45,580
revelations and things explained to me

2271
01:58:50,550 --> 01:58:47,830
the you know only then made it made that

2272
01:58:52,410 --> 01:58:50,560
perfect sense to constantly stop making

2273
01:58:54,149 --> 01:58:52,420
a straw man out of the government and

2274
01:58:56,640 --> 01:58:54,159
look at government as a collection of

2275
01:58:59,189 --> 01:58:56,650
all these individuals you know and and

2276
01:59:01,740 --> 01:58:59,199
appeal to them whatever change we want

2277
01:59:04,830 --> 01:59:01,750
to appeal to them as these workers that

2278
01:59:07,410 --> 01:59:04,840
maintain it you know to to say you know

2279
01:59:09,179 --> 01:59:07,420
it's okay it's time for change let's

2280
01:59:12,219 --> 01:59:09,189
let's change

2281
01:59:15,489 --> 01:59:12,229
yeah yeah I remember very distinctly

2282
01:59:19,540 --> 01:59:15,499
here in Missouri where there was a an

2283
01:59:22,719 --> 01:59:19,550
attempt to force the governor's office

2284
01:59:26,619 --> 01:59:22,729
to release everything it knew about UFOs

2285
01:59:28,509 --> 01:59:26,629
and I remember when it was going on it

2286
01:59:30,790 --> 01:59:28,519
was gonna be by signature you have to

2287
01:59:34,330 --> 01:59:30,800
have X number of signatures to get on a

2288
01:59:38,560 --> 01:59:34,340
ballot ba-ba-ba-ba-ba long story short I

2289
01:59:40,839 --> 01:59:38,570
thought what makes you think the

2290
01:59:44,589 --> 01:59:40,849
governor's office has any knowledge

2291
01:59:47,259 --> 01:59:44,599
whatsoever about this stuff you know you

2292
01:59:49,389 --> 01:59:47,269
have to ask the right person the right

2293
01:59:53,259 --> 01:59:49,399
question to get the answer you're

2294
01:59:55,119 --> 01:59:53,269
looking for and that's true at any level

2295
01:59:57,790 --> 01:59:55,129
that you want to go to if I'm doing an

2296
01:59:59,589 --> 01:59:57,800
interview with an eyewitness and I don't

2297
02:00:08,139 --> 01:59:59,599
ask the right questions I'm not going to

2298
02:00:09,609 --> 02:00:08,149
get all the story so who you talked

2299
02:00:11,889 --> 02:00:09,619
about so much in the last two minutes

2300
02:00:14,429 --> 02:00:11,899
that I could just go on for days about

2301
02:00:16,989 --> 02:00:14,439
government sorry I got you home

2302
02:00:19,719 --> 02:00:16,999
hi I work for the city of st. Charles

2303
02:00:20,889 --> 02:00:19,729
government for 8 years and I know just

2304
02:00:24,729 --> 02:00:20,899
at that level

2305
02:00:26,409 --> 02:00:24,739
not even a county level a city level all

2306
02:00:27,909 --> 02:00:26,419
the ins and outs that they're going with

2307
02:00:28,540 --> 02:00:27,919
that stuff then you take it up to the

2308
02:00:32,649 --> 02:00:28,550
White House

2309
02:00:35,349 --> 02:00:32,659
oh lord have mercy there that's why I

2310
02:00:38,649 --> 02:00:35,359
say you're we are never going to see

2311
02:00:41,849 --> 02:00:38,659
disclosure like we think we're going to

2312
02:00:45,129 --> 02:00:41,859
see it because there's too much at risk

2313
02:00:46,449 --> 02:00:45,139
there's way too much at risk you know

2314
02:00:49,060 --> 02:00:46,459
you've got some people out there

2315
02:00:50,469 --> 02:00:49,070
purporting to be after it we want

2316
02:00:52,029 --> 02:00:50,479
disclosure because we know there's

2317
02:00:54,989 --> 02:00:52,039
technology they had that can help

2318
02:01:00,919 --> 02:00:57,719
really

2319
02:01:04,890 --> 02:01:00,929
I think y'all are too full your ego

2320
02:01:06,899 --> 02:01:04,900
because you won your name so-and-so made

2321
02:01:10,199 --> 02:01:06,909
this breakthrough with the governments

2322
02:01:10,649 --> 02:01:10,209
of blah blah blah y'all are in it for

2323
02:01:13,410 --> 02:01:10,659
the money

2324
02:01:18,479 --> 02:01:13,420
y'all are not in it to help fellow human

2325
02:01:21,479 --> 02:01:18,489
beings I'm sorry to interrupt I guess he

2326
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:21,489
just uh it's we've been going on for

2327
02:01:26,279 --> 02:01:24,010
quite a bit and I wish I had more time

2328
02:01:28,319 --> 02:01:26,289
but it certainly do appreciate you

2329
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:28,329
coming on and talking and covering all

2330
02:01:35,279 --> 02:01:31,650
these different subjects and in a

2331
02:01:38,370 --> 02:01:35,289
detailed way so I guess in conclusion if

2332
02:01:39,899 --> 02:01:38,380
if you could please leave you know tell

2333
02:01:41,969 --> 02:01:39,909
us your website and I'll have the

2334
02:01:44,189 --> 02:01:41,979
spelling of it and written out in the

2335
02:01:46,080 --> 02:01:44,199
description below so just say the

2336
02:01:50,339 --> 02:01:46,090
website and anything else that you like

2337
02:01:54,540 --> 02:01:50,349
to get to the people's attention on and

2338
02:02:07,160 --> 02:01:54,550
and then we'll conclude with that okay

2339
02:02:11,189 --> 02:02:07,170
my website www.jfn.co.jp/toho PL e RM o

2340
02:02:13,589 --> 02:02:11,199
calm and I have four channels on that

2341
02:02:16,020 --> 02:02:13,599
website the one if you're interested in

2342
02:02:18,959 --> 02:02:16,030
the topics we've been talking about you

2343
02:02:21,959 --> 02:02:18,969
want to go to either the 21st century

2344
02:02:24,449 --> 02:02:21,969
living graphic which includes a link to

2345
02:02:27,209 --> 02:02:24,459
the MUFON meetings that I've got up

2346
02:02:31,589 --> 02:02:27,219
online or you may want to go to the

2347
02:02:33,750 --> 02:02:31,599
paranormal Channel that that's where

2348
02:02:40,109 --> 02:02:33,760
you'll find my documentary on the

2349
02:02:43,219 --> 02:02:40,119
chupacabra other than that if you have

2350
02:02:45,810 --> 02:02:43,229
any questions or comments send them in

2351
02:02:47,910 --> 02:02:45,820
they can contact you directly as well

2352
02:02:50,819 --> 02:02:47,920
rather do that especially when it's

2353
02:02:55,410 --> 02:02:50,829
referring to you do you have do you have

2354
02:02:58,020 --> 02:02:55,420
a contact on your website sure you can

2355
02:03:01,529 --> 02:02:58,030
email me you can well yeah there's a

2356
02:03:07,049 --> 02:03:01,539
contact mechanism but you can also email

2357
02:03:11,049 --> 02:03:07,059
me and Joseph Palermo all small letters

2358
02:03:14,169 --> 02:03:11,059
in all one word 2012 to zero one two

2359
02:03:16,720 --> 02:03:14,179
at gmail.com okay

2360
02:03:17,410 --> 02:03:16,730
well Joe thank you very much I really

2361
02:03:18,910 --> 02:03:17,420
appreciate it

2362
02:03:21,189 --> 02:03:18,920
I will we'll talk some more about

2363
02:03:24,930 --> 02:03:21,199
getting those links from you and I'll

2364
02:03:27,310 --> 02:03:24,940
put them in the description and thanks

2365
02:03:29,680 --> 02:03:27,320
thanks again for taking the time today

2366
02:03:32,770 --> 02:03:29,690
and thanks everyone else for watching

2367
02:03:36,250 --> 02:03:32,780
and we'll stay okay for the month for it